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flyboy
Joined: 16 May 2003
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Location: Shanghai
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 Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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Shanghai for me might as well be on Pluto for all I know, and En Kai could be run by the incarnation of Mother Theresa and the 17th Dali Lama for all I might know. But, um, flyboy? Um, you're, well, suspicious.
Post #1 and the first words out of your mouth are to belittle teachers who may have had legit gripes. Sure, there are some boinks out there that think that a silver platter isn't good enough for them to get the world handed to them on, no it has to be diamond encrusted plantinum. But I'd say the majority of gripes that get posted here have their basis in fact. I have worked for "big, respectable" companies that treated me like dirt. People don't just wake up one day and think, "Hmm. What can I do today? Oh, yes, I'll start a personal vendetta against my boss." So 50% of the teachers have good stories. The other half have personal vendettas. Most of those would need MOTIVE. Now, where does the motive come from? They regularly send guys to this site to well, say what you just said. Verbatum. Umm. This is for EFL teachers. And the odd student that pops up, whatever, it's cool. But, um, Mr. Evil Manager - type? Could you please go be evil back in Shanghai, which is very far from me?
If managers come here, at least read the other posts you and your parrots have made in the past and say something origional.
Sorry, I guess I just got interested that managers of schools would read this stuff. Sigh, if you don't want the nasty stuff that gets posted to reach an "official" level of 50%, then how about introducing wild revolutionary reforms like:
Paying us on time.
Stop blaming us for stuff we don't do.
Give us what you promise in a written contract.
Not artificially inflate the dress code. (What's up with that? I know a woman who got in trouble wearing an outfit she used to wear on the FTSE, or London stock exhange. While working for some langauge school.)
Make the connection that skin colour is NOT RELATED to teaching ability. Geez. People only believe that stuff because of a media bliz caused, primarily, by YOU.
Don't threaten us with violence, or take away our passports, or rob us, or lie to us. This will get posted on the net.
Do not AIM FOR a 100% turnover every year. How many Fortune 500 companies ADMIT to having such a policy, they way more than one of my previous employers has?
Treat your local staff nice. Do not purposely treat them like crap, then pay them considerably less than us in an effort to create animosity so that we do not communicate (okay, in China the pay thing might be a bit difficult to redress. But still.) Hello? They have information we need, and we have information they need. Do you have ANY IDEA how disruptive animostiy in the workplace is? How much MONEY it is costing YOU in lost man - hour time?
This above all else, to thine own clients be true. Don't lie to them. Don't give them unrealistic hopes. Don't tell them that your teachers are all EFL rocket scientists if they're not. Don't sell them 600 lesson tickets on a 3 year free booking contract system, knowing dam well that they couldn't possibly use them all (that's like one lesson every other day constantly for 3 years - who's going to do that?) That's taking money from some one - a lot of money hand over fist - and giving them NOTHING. You can run a sucessful, MONEY MAKING EFL school by actually selling LESSONS instead of NOTHING. Especially in China.
Okay, how much of this applies to flyboy? Who cares. It kind of turned into a post for your average Mr/Ms E. Manager who might be out there reading.
To misquote one of my favorite authors:
Do I oversimplify the matter? Very well, I oversimplify the matter. I'm an a$$, it's not like I contain multitudes or anything.
PS Flyboy if you're who you say you are and not who I think you are, then don't take it personally. Read the NOVA arguments on the archive in the Japan thread and you'll understand.
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I completely agree on many of your points and I am truly who I say I am. As for Kai En...I just hate seeing crap being posted, when I know it is untrue. especially when I know the authors of some of the "misinformation".
I take no offense and appreciate you bringing some of these points to the attention of the readers. I would suggest people using common sense.
Don't work for a company, if you have not done your homework!
Don't come here without a signed and verified contract (Chinese & English...don'y forget the chop. No chop, then not legal!
Don't take others opinions as your own! Make your own assesment.
Don't take offense to anyones comments!
I suggest some things:
Do work for foreign management, so you can communicate you needs and desires.
Do be open minded.
Do realize this is like no other country in the world!
Do try to have fun and take it for what it is...an EXPERIENCE.
China won't kill you, but dwelling on the negative will.
WOLF....fair is fair...I am right and you have absolutely no basis since you don't even know Kai En, but so is life.
As for the Manager part..remember I am a professional (that means actually certfied) teacher. I was also a teacher at this school, so I know both sides. If yopu ask anyone who worked with me, then you would know the facts. Yet, I really don't care too much any more because my life has moves in a different direction.
Anyway...to everyone I wish you the best of luck in finding the first school or another in China. |
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Wolf
Joined: 10 May 2003
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Location: Middle Earth
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 10:50 am Post subject: |
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WOLF....fair is fair...I am right and you have absolutely no basis since you don't even know Kai En, but so is life.
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I'm glad you didn't take offence. I know that I wasn't diplomatic. At the time of posting, I was going through a massive re-adjustment phase.
I don't know En Kai. I did say at the beginning:
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| Shanghai for me might as well be on Pluto for all I know, and En Kai could be run by the incarnation of Mother Theresa and the 17th Dali Lama for all I might know. But, um, flyboy? Um, you're, well, suspicious. |
The closest I've even gotten to Shanghai is Incheon (I think.) My tirade of things "managers" shouldn't do wasn't aimed solely at you. I hoped that people would figure that out. They were not meant as personal attacks on you (okay, not on only you.)
My tirade does have basis. Ether that or I'm caught in some sort of machine from "The Matrix" and not living in the world you do, because everything in my list is a reaction of either something that has happened to me, or something that has happened to friends of mine. The whole thread touched a (frayed) nerve that triggered my post.
No basis when it comes to En - Kai? Possibly. I did say, after all:
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| PS Flyboy if you're who you say you are and not who I think you are, then don't take it personally. Read the NOVA arguments on the archive in the Japan thread (insert I meant the job journal but forgot its proper name) and you'll understand. |
I had just enough sanity left to attempt to qualify my arguments. I can see how it would get your goat if you thought that I was only talking about your school.
PS I'm sorry I misread your post: I got it into my head that you were a teacher posing as a manager, when such subterfuge doesn't actually appear in your post. |
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