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laodeng
Joined: 07 Feb 2004 Posts: 481
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Is this a joke, Mr. Kevin? |
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The Great Wall of Whiner

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 4946 Location: Blabbing
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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PeterGriffin wrote:
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| Also to those who may feel I'm F*@#ing up the job market for accepting such a low wage you guys can lick my bag |
Nice.
Are you going to teach your students what "lick your bag" means?
How can I not resist to help you with an attitude like that?
Hope you don't get busted by immigration for working illegally.... |
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Mr.Kevin
Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 38 Location: Changsha
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:07 am Post subject: |
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| No joke, we work 100% legally. We tried to work at a middle school but we found out we could not unless we had a degree. Elementary Schools do not require a degree, at least thats what I know about Hunan. Also, my wife won the Lotus award for best FT in a public school in Hunan Province. She is 1 year younger than I with the same education. I don't think she would have won the award if we were illegaly working. Surprising? |
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justcolleen

Joined: 07 Jan 2004 Posts: 654 Location: Egypt, baby!
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:43 am Post subject: |
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| I'm sick of talking to people braging about their degree when it has nothing to do with teaching english. |
So are you telling me I wasted my time studying and earning a degree with an English major? How so?
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Mr.Kevin
Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 38 Location: Changsha
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:57 am Post subject: |
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You did if your goal was to only come to china and teach at an elementary school. If I had a degree I would not be in this crappy country. Thats why I'm not in Japan or Taiwan. I'm here to make enough money to go to school. People back home think this is a good idea, people in china seem jealous.
China is just an unfair county.
Looser
Did you need an English major to catch my typo? |
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justcolleen

Joined: 07 Jan 2004 Posts: 654 Location: Egypt, baby!
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 2:20 am Post subject: |
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| Mr.Kevin wrote: |
| Did you need an English major to catch my typo? |
Since you asked, after a cursory review....
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You did if your goal was to only come to China and teach at an elementary school. If I had a degree I would not be in this crappy country. That's why I'm not in Japan or Taiwan. I'm here to make enough money to go to school. People back home think this is a good idea; people in China seem jealous.
China is just an unfair county.
Loser |
A couple of quick notes:
We capitalize the names of countries.
Looser is the opposite of tighter; loser is the opposite of winner.
And, no, my goal was never to go to China and teach in an elementary school. My goal was simply to get an education.
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voodikon

Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 1363 Location: chengdu
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 3:25 am Post subject: |
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| Mr.Kevin wrote: |
Looser
Did you need an English major to catch my typo? |
i find that you continually refer to this blatant orthographical disregard as a "typo" when indeed it is not.
a typographical error is a failure of manual dexterity; yours is simply a misspelling, which, it could be said, is a failure of mental dexterity. |
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lagerlout2006

Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Posts: 985
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 4:03 am Post subject: |
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Mr Kev (after calling us "Western washouts"? then calls China "unfair."
How has China been unfair to you? You are housed-given a cushy job-and return airfare to go home! All without even a degree. What an attitude!
But yes you can be legal here---elementary only sounds correct. Which is about the way it should be.
PS---Have you even been to Korea or Japan? |
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Mr.Kevin
Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 38 Location: Changsha
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:42 am Post subject: |
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Mr.Kevin
Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 38 Location: Changsha
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:42 am Post subject: |
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Thats right. I also called China great because in this country anyone can teach english, even the boring western washouts. A dumba** with a degree is still a dumba**. I should go to England and take klingon. At least I'd be a smarta** with a degree. If you can't get a better job than a person half your age with a high school diploma then you're in China, or you should escape your home country and come here quick, at least you might seem cool to a few Chinese people.
Speaking of which, voodikon must be a real winner in his home country.
and Colleen, are you trying to provide proof that you're a looser?
Look at some of my other posts, maybe you will understand the looser thing.Also
its not an attitude, its balls. |
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Roger
Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 9138
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:49 am Post subject: |
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China is great!
I left coodos to Peter, I'm sick of talking to people braging about their degree when it has nothing to do with teaching english. It seems to me that chinese people are only seeing western wash-outs. They need fresh blood out here. Its very good experience |
That's right, Mr Kevin, we do need fresh blood here - but no greenhorns who are at odds with English grammar and syntax!
Better to employ a degreed wahs-out than an unwashed ignoramus! |
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tradinup
Joined: 13 Nov 2004 Posts: 132 Location: Shenzhen, China
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| The goal is to provide Chinese students with a quality education; there's more than escaping your McDonald's job at stake. Honestly, both Mr. Kevin and the OP need to advance their level of English competency to be a truly great asset to their students. If you don't want to do a degree, then do the right thing by simply opening an English textbook and advancing your skills. |
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Mr.Kevin
Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 38 Location: Changsha
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 7:44 am Post subject: |
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Hey Roger, what are you talking about. Count to 10 before you reply to something that upsets you. If you quote me do it right. "ignoramus" I like you, your my favorite loser. I give every student of mine a quality education, and unlike most wash outs, a fun and interesting lesson everytime they see me. I also tought an engineering professor.
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TEAM_PAPUA

Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 1679 Location: HOLE
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 7:57 am Post subject: * |
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I guess that Mr Kevin's students are getting value for money
(if the courses are free)
T_P
*Don't bother flaming me or I'll come and find you, then kill you in front of your family!  |
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tom selleck

Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 979 Location: Urumqi...for the 3rd time.
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:06 am Post subject: |
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After everyone takes a deep breath, Perhaps there is a GRAIN of truth to Mr. Kevin's point. The 2 most pathetic teachers I ever met were degreed up the ying yang. They sure spoke awful articulate like. I wish they taught just as well as they impressed others with their oh-so articulately formulated, left of center, intellectually advanced utterances.
But when it was my turn to teach the kids that they had just completed a course with, their kids just plain didn't know their stuff. Confucious said, "Teach according to your student's abilities".
After the mental masterbators were finished, I had to basically re-teach what the towering intellects of power had neglected, and were supposed to teach. I know what Mr. Kevin means. The real mark of intelligence is being able to express, or paint a vivid mental picture without all the verbal diarroeah. Hemingway said it took him years to develop such a writing style. There's a certain beauty in simplicity. I really couldn't care less if another teacher has a doctorate or is a college drop-out. Just don't bugger up the kids by teaching ineffectively, degree or not.
Someone who actually gives a rat's ass may be the next teacher to take over at the next level. Degree or no degree. |
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