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The Great Wall of Whiner
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Okay, no smart-ars remarks.
But a few questions:
Where are you from?
Do you have a University degree?
These are the two critical questions.
Answer these, and answers will be easy to give.
Without a degree, you're looking at pretty much China, unless you're young or beautiful, then you can "manuevre" your way around the obsticles.
I taught in Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and now China.
For money? Japan was the best "pay", but things were expensive.
For lifestyle? Korea.
For saving your dough?
China. If you are prepared to work 8-hour days, you can SAVE tons. Things are dirt cheap here.
Hope I was helpful, and not a smart-ars. |
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Gordon
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| The Great Wall of Whiner wrote: |
For saving your dough?
China. If you are prepared to work 8-hour days, you can SAVE tons. Things are dirt cheap here.
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This is something I've always wondered. Teachers in China talk about how easy it is to save money. I realize that you can save most of what you make. How much can you really save if you aren't making all that much? I really don't know what the avg pay is. |
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spiral78
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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I, too, read over the original responses and can't find anything especially negative or 'smart-assed.' But, totally true that no one can offer much assistance without more details! However, it happens pretty often that when a poster doesn't get back exactly what he or she wanted to hear, that person simply drops off the board, and all those who spent time trying to offer something useful never know whether it was even read or not.
Hopefully that won't be the case here. I think many people have genuinely tried to offer something useful, or taken the time to ask for the info that would lead to useful information. |
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shmooj
Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Location: Seoul, ROK
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:31 pm Post subject: Re: korea maybe |
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| madrid26 wrote: |
| I'm no expert, but from all that I've read Korea is the only country where one can teach ESL and save money. |
Right... no expert at all. THEre are plenty of places in the world where you can teach EFL and save money. Korea is one of them. This forum contains examples of plenty of others...
As has been stated here many times before, saving money is a lifestyle, not a destination.
Let me also say to Woman of the World that Rhonda knows exactly how to cope with smart-assed remarks on this forum and the ones you got when you first posted are extremely tame by comparison. Honestly, Rhonda will speak your language if you contact her. |
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lagerlout2006
Joined: 17 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:04 am Post subject: |
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| Gordon wrote: |
| The Great Wall of Whiner wrote: |
For saving your dough?
China. If you are prepared to work 8-hour days, you can SAVE tons. Things are dirt cheap here.
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This is something I've always wondered. Teachers in China talk about how easy it is to save money. I realize that you can save most of what you make. How much can you really save if you aren't making all that much? I really don't know what the avg pay is. |
Well---this teacher has less money than he arrived in China with...Not saying saving is impossible though. I did take the summer off and I teach very few classes and no moonlighting. China is not THAT cheap...In my experience Shanghai is maybe the priciest place in Asia. |
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sojourner
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: nice, friendly, easy-going (ALL) Peoples' Republic of China
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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Lagerlout,
"- - - Shanghai is maybe the priciest place in Asia". Have you ever been to HK or Tokyo ? Also, both Seoul and Singapore are more expensive than Shanghai - especially in the area of accommodation.
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shmooj
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Location: Seoul, ROK
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| Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:20 am Post subject: |
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Yeah that post made no sense to me either. Tokyo is incredibly expensive.
But to put Seoul on a list with Tokyo is a bit deceptive. It really isn't that expensive for food, entertainment or transport. Accommodation can be found cheaply too. Salaries are pretty good in relative terms which is why so many people come here to save money. |
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Roger
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| Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Since the smartly-questioning original poster has been directed to China I wish to lodge my doubts here whether she will make much money in that country.
If she is so prickly she will find China to be an uncongenial place to live and work in! Here, she needs to be flexible and tolerant! |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, I have to agree with Roger - unless you are highly qualified, China is not the place to make big money and also the RIGHT ATTITUDE is the main requirement for living and teaching in a foreign country. |
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AsiaTraveller
Joined: 24 May 2004
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Location: Singapore, Mumbai, Penang, Denpasar, Berkeley
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| Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Roger wrote: |
| If she is so prickly she will find China to be an uncongenial place to live and work in! Here, she needs to be flexible and tolerant. |
Yes, this is the same Roger who has written the following (among many other 'culturally sensitive' and 'flexible' statements about Chinese culture and the Chinese):
"The Chinese are at heart very vindictive, a people that feel superior to everyone else".
"Thus I believe one of my jobs in being here is to change their silly and narrow-minded outlooks". |
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lagerlout2006
Joined: 17 Sep 2003
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To qualify---rent I suppose is OK but when I go to Shanghai I buy books - clothes and go to ex-pat type places. All these are much more expensive than Korea. Not like Japan I guess. But I don't think it's wild to say it's as expensive as Hong Kong...Our old friend Ludwig would agree.
Chungk Mansion---although not the Waldorf--is cheaper than almost any rooms in PRC.
I've also been told by well-to - do locals that good clothes are cheaper in HK. |
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nativespeaker1
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| Naughty AsiaTraveller! There you go asking Roger to be consistent. |
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denise
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Where is the original poster? After accusing fellow forum members of being smart asses, she has disappeared! 
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ls650
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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I guess no one was telling her what she wanted to hear...  |
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AsiaTraveller
Joined: 24 May 2004
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Do you think this is what she wanted to hear?
| womanoftheworld wrote: |
Hi,
I am 59 and hope to go abroad to teach next year.
What countries do you recommend for someone who wants to earn money.
Very few countries pay English teachers in money. If you teach in the Netherlands, you will earn your fees in cheese. In Argentina, you will be paid in sides of beef. I hear that you can earn an awful lot of vodka in Russia, and you will never be short of cigars if you teach in Cuba.
I need to earn and save so it has to be a currency that converts to USD.
The only world currencies that convert to USD are the Zambian kwacha and the Slovakian koruny. But Zambia accepts teachers who are no older than 58, so you must go to Slovakia.
I also wd like a good quality of life and good people to work with and for.
For that, you will need to work in rural China. You will be treated like the white goddess you are, and your colleagues will welcome your decades of no experience with open arms.
Am I asking for too much?
Actually, you should be asking to become the Director of Services at a posh private school in Japan. With your communication skills and delightful personality, you'll put the competition out of business in no time.
Any advice is appreciated.
No, you didn't appreciate (or even acknowledge) any of it. |
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