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Roger



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

writpetition wrote:
Houjie? Did I see that right? Very Happy
I've worked in Houjie and at the very same place Roger referred to in his post, 'Oxford' and 'Camford'. The school is not recognized or authorised to hire foreign teachers but do and they don't treat the teachers too bad...I mean it could have been worse (that's not to say that teachers are happy there). The pay is good, work hours long and living conditions poor.
The school does not arrange visas etc....hey but what am I doing talking about Oxford? Embarassed
Houjie is more like a small settlement that has almost everything, practically around one street...a small yet pleasant place, I'd say. The rest of the place has nothing to be said about and yes, it's part of Dongguan city.
If someone were to offer me a job in Dongguan, and Houjie in particular, I'd take it.... Very Happy


OK, writpetition,
I take up your challenge: who is the recruiter at Oxford/Cambridge? A Filippina/American lady? How many teachers remained after the first semester?
I worked wiith woxal in Dongguan-Dongcheng for a while (thank you, Carol, for that dinner invite... will think about it when I can afford to travel again); I was also "hired" by Oxford/Cambridge but they were so hopelessly disorganised that I bailed out (that is, they hired me, gave me a name plaque and introduced me to their young learners, some were Brazilians, many were Taiwanese kids); then they had no apartment for me and put me up in a Houjie 3-star hotel, paying the bill but asking me to travel to their camp by motorcycle of all things!
Well, would you accept a job like this?
Anyway, when I was teaching at the same trainign centre as Carol we had on one Sunday 3 or 4 refugees from Cambridge, all saying they were going to quit! What gives, mate?
Also, one said that there had been muggings outside the relatively isolated camp away from the built-up area (the newer one).
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writpetition



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Roger,
Yep, the recruiter is a Fillipina lady (name starts with an 'R') who's been there about 4-5 years now and she cowers in the presence of the lady (name starts with an 'S') who part owns/runs the place.
I was there about two years ago and at that point of time most foreign teachers were housed in rooms at Oxford. Camford was then just finishing and actually started operations (though not full-scale) a little later. Accomodations there were about as inadequate as those at the Oxford school. And, yes, the place is a little way out. There were no muggings etc then but things might have changed now.
I have continued meeting some of the ft's there and was last in Houjie in July lst year. The teachers, some of who are still around from the time I was teaching/leaving, continue to plod on because of the relatively higher salaries. Some of them have chosen to rent apartments away from the new campus and thereby avoid the inconveniences, prying etc at the school.
BTW Roger, it's just possible that I might have met/seen you in one of frequent travels through Houjie which I use as a base to plan my moves when in China because of my familiarity with the place and the convenience it offers.
And, yes, you were right about the Brazilian kids (three when I was there) and many Taiwanese + Korean ones, too. The kids were wonderful (except the odd spoilt ones in higher grades).
Cheers!
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