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[Guy Courchesne]

As always, the voice of reason speaks sense

[mikesspamlessemail]

Holy cow, I sense some major bitterness from you! Relax. I'm impressed with how judgmental you are given that you don't know a thing about me. I do have substantial successful teaching experience in the US so I have no doubts in my regards to my effectiveness as an ESL teacher. Oh, I forgot, you are completely pure of heart. The only reason you went to Mexico was to do service for others, since there was no need for this in whatever your native country is. Give me a break. Maybe people just got sick of your self-righteous pompous schtick. Anyway, I feel blessed that you have graced my presence... vaya con dios.

Btw, lascivious was a nice touch. How many times did you have to look back at the dictionary before you got it down? You are a true piece of...








work.

[Guy Courchesne]

All to elicit exactly that response. You're right, I assumed a lot, as do you.

Welcome to Dave's!

Where's Rich to answer his customer's calls?

OP, enjoy Mexico! You'll find what you're looking for on quite a few beaches...

[richtx1]

Ok, Guy... I just don't have the time to hang around here much these days.

I know some people question the legitimacy of "fee-paid placement services" but for people who know that they want to teach in Mexico, and do not want to invest in a trip, job hunting, salary negotiating, etc... it's a reasonable deal. I do the job, salary, etc. work for internetworks' Mexico City recruits, and I did check the company out before I took on the job. It has a good reputation and every client I've placed has been happy.

Internetworks has a good reputation for also checking out those that register with them... the only problem I've had doing placement was with one person whose university degree was in a semi-irrelevant field. And, some people have unrealistic expectations as far as salary and living conditions. If the service is for the OP, it's worth the money... and no one expects teachers to become monks. Yeah, you sort of need to take a vow of poverty, but chastity and obedience are not prerequisites for living here.

[mikesspamlessemail]

No worries Guy, I meant my post to be to moonraven but I guess the order of the posts made it look otherwise. Not that it matters...

I just think the use of the word lasciviousness is hilarious and speaks volumes to what kind of chick the raven is. It's very paternalistic and condescending to Mexicans. So I think the women are beautiful- so what? I did not say or suggest that I was looking for multiple hookups or to treat them badly. Nor was there any reason for her to doubt my ability or sincerity as a teacher. Like I said, it sounds like she's been burned multiple times.

Moonraven reminds me of the judge who issued a gag order when Roots turned out to be a fraud- protecting African Americans from the truth because "they can't handle it". How thoroughly disgusting.

Had to chuckle at the reference to an oath of poverty. That will not be a problem! It's only paper and part of the draw is experiencing a society that isn't completely focused on material possessions and doesn't exhibit manic consumerism.

[Guy Courchesne]

Actually, I think the word was very nicely chosen. This is less about you personally, and much more about the long history of EFL cowboys that have traipsed through this country for little more than a lay. It's much less about whether she's been burned once or twice, but how many other people get burned...language school directors, parents, children.

You seem to have your head on straight, so please forgive us for interpreting your OP badly. It looked suspiciously like so many other 18 year old wet-dream posts that it almost didn't get a response.

Not sure when you are planning the trip, but the iron is hot now me thinks.

[Ben Round de Bloc]

[ls650]

I think the problem is that when someone posts a note on Dave's Cafe similar to 'Help me get a job near the beach so I can meet beautiful dark-skinned women', about, oh, 9 times out of 10 that note _really_ means 'Women in my home country won't have anything to do with me'.

Now, maybe you're that 1 out of 10 poster who is really a decent guy. I don't know.

[mikesspamlessemail]

If it is in fact true that most people who go with that in mind are wankers, I'll buy that. I have a few friends who had no problems with women in the states but just got tired of the society in general and went abroad. And I'm sure materialism does exist there as well. But I find it hard to believe it's as bad as going to bars here and having 20 somethings literally ask you what your salary is. If it is that bad, please tell me and I'll scrap the idea. Perhaps the idealization is completely unrealistic.

[Ben Round de Bloc]

[Guy Courchesne]

[moonraven]

To the OP:

Since you decided to turn your participation in this thread into a a tantrum of adolescent insults in my direction, I am going to respond.

1. Nice to see that in addition to being hot to trot for latin ladies that you are also a misogynist--not an infrequently seen combo here, as latin american women are stereotyped (wrongly) as being submissive. You showed your misogyny when you wrote a really nasty post to me--who only commented on your motives after Guy had seriously querstioned them and then asked me to do so. So a guy can question your motives, but if a woman does so she receives a blast of beep from you. That's misogyny, pal.

2. If you hadn't presented yourself as a pseudo-proletariat (worker has a definite meaning here in Mexico) with his tongue hanging out to hit the beach and chase broads, perhaps you would have received a more respectful approach from us. It isn't "kosher" to come on like Beavus and/or Butthead and then give me a blast of beep because I didn't see you were the Einstein/Schweitzer or any other Albert you choose of EFL.
If you're too immature to realize that--stay home.

3. Lascivious, as Guy pointed out, was a particularly apt choice of words on my part because it represented the stereotyped/cartoon quality of the image that you presented of yourself to us. Words like that spring to my mind like shotgun pellets because I am, after all, a professional writer.

4. Never been burned, either. Nor am I patronizing to minority groups since I am part of one (member of the Iroquois Nation).

5. The real bottom line here that set you off is that I read you like a (comic) book.

[refazenda]

Moonraven,

I was about to put my comments in here, but all I have to say now is thank you.

[Guy Courchesne]

OP, here in Mexico we call this game bolita or pile on in Canada. Not what you expected I gather.