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briandwest
Joined: 10 Feb 2006
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Location: Hong Kong
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All you have outlined here, Susie, is common practice of many employers that as a job searcher in HK you need to be wise to. There are hundreds of adverts in JobsDb and the newspaper' classifieds that don't relate to actual jobs. Many employers get cheap, and in some cases free, advertising packages that give them rolling advertising space. They see this as beneficial to the company as it is free advertising for the company name, allows them to stockpile CVs for any future positions they may have and also allows them to show to the immigration department that they have been advertising for posts for quite some time without being able to fill them. Before you ask this used to be one of my previous roles so Ihave some experience in this area.
Incidentally you'll find exactly the same in the UK Job market which is why I stay well clear of internet job advertisers.
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| there were two young 20ish females waiting in the waiting area for their "interviews" (I wonder if they all went out for a drink afterwards with the girls buying)! |
You really do keep putting your foot in it and showing a total lack of understanding for the HK culture, Susie.
"Girls" Never, ever buy anything here - it is always the man than catches the bill!
I'm also astonished that you refer to a 20 year old woman as a "Girl". I thought in this post-modern liberated world men could get castrated for using such terms... |
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kowlooner
Joined: 24 Jun 2004
Posts: 230
Location: HK, BCC (former)
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| The interview was conducted by three, approx. 25 year old male, "teachers". I did feel alienated by the generation gap and the feeling that they had set the rules of the game and held the cards, but that is my weakness. |
I guess I�m just going to have to agree with Susie on this one. Danggit! Why couldn�t those interviewers have had the sensitivity to have been born 20 years earlier?! It�s an outrage, I tell you! An outrage! And for an interviewer to set the rules of the game? Pure evil!
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| When I asked them for some details on the teaching position applied for and the school � one Danny Kan told me that I would have to play by their rules some more, namely that I would have to respond to some scenarios that they would give me and answers some more questions first. Then I could ask questions at the end of the interview. |
They should be sued for criminal misconduct! Don�t they know how to run an interview? Durn rule-setting, game-playing weasels. I�ll bet they�re map-rippers in a parallel universe.
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| When the end came, he told me with a smile, that because I arrived late there was no time for me to ask questions nor for them to give details about the school, but that I could email them the questions. |
And all because of being late! What�s the big deal? What, is their interview schedule more important or something?
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| When I came out at 7.40 p.m., there were two young 20ish females waiting in the waiting area for their "interviews" (I wonder if they all went out for a drink afterwards with the girls buying)! |
Let�s be straight here. The girls clearly took the guys out to a love hotel after some lap-dancing at a Mongkok karaoke box. It�s a dirty but open secret of the ESL world. Chicks do it just to get a chance to enter the lucrative world of tutoring.
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| The "game" got more interesting, I did email some questions and the emailed reply was something to the effect that they'll notify me in 7 days if my interview was successful, but if I don't hear anything then assume no success. I don't have any evidence that there was work on offer at all, all I know is that these three guys got to practise their "interviewing" skills and got to "play boss" at my expense at 7.00 p.m. in the evening. |
Ah, the dreaded �don�t call us, we�ll call you� response! They�re Satan�s spawn, obviously. Staying around in the evening just to practice their interviewing skills, before getting laid by nubile young TEFLers.
Come on, Susie. Are you being serious or just yanking our chain? |
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Susie
Joined: 02 Jul 2003
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Location: PRC
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I still hold that it would be an excellent idea for potential employers to pay interviewees travel and time costs as I believe this would go some way to decreasing the time-wasting and free English practice that I believe some HK potential "employers" engage in. And you know, my idea is a reality, as the EMB does pay up to HK$1,000 interview expenses in certain circumstances.
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kowlooner
Joined: 24 Jun 2004
Posts: 230
Location: HK, BCC (former)
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You�re quoting yourself now Susie?
As for the �EMB does pay up to HK$1,000 interview expenses in certain circumstances,� that is referring to travel expenses for, in a very few instances, those who come from overseas for a face-to-face interview, correct? Assuming this is provided to those coming from, say, as far away as Macau, then yes, you could get around HK$25 per mile. Quite a deal! You�d be making money! If it�s from say HK to Taiwan, though, it�s about $2.00 a mile. Considering that HK is only about 20x20 miles, I guess the max you could claim is about forty bucks. If it was Japan to HK, halve that figure again and then some. Now, weren�t you aiming for something like $200? Isn�t that a bit greedy?
Actually, this is an interesting issue. Could you please direct us to a source (other than the basic EMB home page) that directly discusses this issue with more than passing authority?
After all, I�m sure some of those nubile young TEFlers mentioned above wouldn�t mind getting travel expenses on top of everything else. |
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