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[laben18]

do the girls do more than stare ?

[Volodiya]

There are the girls that will throw themselves at you; there are the girls that will make themselves available to you; but, the rest will expect marriage to go with anything that gets beyond..., and from what I hear, you can expect plenty of emotional fireworks to go with any reluctance expressed on your side. Remember courting? It still happens in China.

That's what I meant when I said the word "traditional" pretty much captured the idea.

[Sheep-Goats]

[Volodiya]

I want to be sure we are comparing the same things.

On the uni job, I don't know if you meant to say 30,000 including accomodation; but, if you did, as far as I know, that's just a little above the current going rate at unis in Thailand, government package- 26,380 (I forget the exact figure), which includes an 8,000 Baht sum for accomodations, with no overtime.

In China, as I said earlier, the unis pay, on average, the approximate equivalent of 20,000 plus accomodations but, in China, uni jobs are usually for just 10-12 hours of class a week. I looked at one offer in Thailand, recently, and the uni was asking for 18 hours a week, plus mandatory participation in other language training related activities for the students: translated, this is about 50% more work, for approximately the same money. As in Thailand, paid holidays are the norm for uni jobs.

About language schools, my figure of the equivalent of 38,000 was based on 25 hours of teaching, per week. You can work more, for more money, almost anywhere, I suppose.
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Where I live, the climate is such that, like most places, it's only necessary to bathe once a day. (I do like the tropics, though, and bathe twice a day when I'm in Thailand).

Finally, I've never seen a parent allow a child to take a dump on the sidewalk. What I have seen them do, and I see this daily, is put a piece of newspaper, or plastic bag on the sidewalk, under the bottom. Later, the paper/bag and contents are disposed of in the trash bin.

As I've said, I'm not trying to sell anybody on China. It's just a place you might think about, if anybody wanted to consider a change. It is possible that the job market is not as tight in China as it is in Thailand, but that's awfully hard to know, for sure. The competition for the best jobs (not the typical jobs, like I've been talking about) is keen, everywhere.

[Sheep-Goats]

[Volodiya]

S.G. you've got me on that last point. Thai girls- there certainly are some nice ones. They are far more at ease when dealing with men than Chinese girls, on the whole, and who doesn't appreciate that?

[JZer]

So how is the Thai dating scene? What has been everyone's experience?

P.S.-I am not interesting in hearing about hookers. Just normal Thai girls.

[saroq]

I lived in China for 5 years. I love the place and would happily go back. But clean! Are you crazy? It's filthy but admittedly improving a lot. Personal hygiene is perhaps the worst I've even seen and God help you if you get involved with a local girl. You'll be cruising along thinking you've got a normal relationship while she's thinking you're half way married. When you back out all hell will break loose. Mentally many are 30 going on 13. It's a fascinating place to live and I love the country but it's not easy. I don�t agree that the language is as hard to learn as it first seems. If you want to you'll soon have enough to get by with.

[JoeJ]

Well most of you have already burned China pretty bad and usually I don't like throwing wood on the fire once it's already going but, here are a few reasons, in brief, China is out of the question for me.

1) Nationalism that's growing out of control, recently illustrated by the anti-Japanese protests and the fact that the Chinese had the highest ratio of people who regularly watched the olympics.
2)The "missing 100 million women." Due to the one child policy ppl kill their female children from time to time. By 2020 1 million men will go unwed every year according to a recent UN study. That means men aren't going to be getting laid, which means men will undoubtly turn more violent and discriminating, especially towards foriegnes who they may think are invading their terriotory.
3)Quasi-communism/lack of free press/generally authoritatative

I don't mean to suggest that China completely lacks charm. These are issues to keep in mind that, depending on where you stay in China, will have varying degrees of influence on your life.

One point I disagree with that was mentioned earlier, is that Thai Women are open to foreigners. While this may be more true in Bangkok and the tourist spots, I think once you get to the smaller towns you will experience that same love for chastity and fear of outsiders, although perhaps to a slighter lesser drum beat.

[junkmail]

[Volodiya]

Privates appear to be readily available, but the people I know who work a lot of them "speak Chinese" (lots better than I do, anyway). This gives them the power to "sell themselves". They can walk into a bank, or hotel, or elsewhere, and offer their services. 100-150 RMB/hour is the mid-range of compensation. Word of mouth, naturally, is the way most of them build up their clientele.

When I spoke of 38,000 Baht for a typical language school job, I meant to equate it with a typical, 100 hour/month job, paying 8,000 RMB (80 RMB/hour). This is mid-range pay. Low end would be 6,000 RMB: high end, 10,000 RMB, for 100 hour/mo language school job.

I live in Kunming. My information comes from people I know, and posters to the China forum. I ignore claims made on the forum of people earning 18,000 RMB/month, as not relevant to most of us, even if true.
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On another thread, Junkmail, you wrote:

[junkmail]

Thanks Volodya, that's good reliable information. Actually for this year I'm not too bothered about privates, just a little icing on the cake.

[Volodiya]

When I posted the original post in this thread, I was just amusing myself a little. The post sparked some interest and, perhaps, developed some useful information, by way of contrast.

But, questions about China should be redirected to the China Forum, it seems to me- which I'll do, in the future, so that the Thailand Forum remains devoted to topics of interest to those living and working in Thailand, or wishing to do so....

[junkmail]

[Kent F. Kruhoeffer]

No need to be sorry! It's an interesting thread


and there's plenty of room here for all kinds of topics, imo!

Besides, variety is the of life.


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