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grahamb

Joined: 30 Apr 2003 Posts: 1945
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 9:44 am Post subject: Your failure to comprehend simple English is not my fault. |
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Says Portochuck: "You made it sound as if that's what most of them wanted...."
Really? Here's what I said: "Forgive me for being blunt, but be aware that there are a lot of unscrupulous people who marry foreigners as a way of getting a passport to a new life. Anyway, I wish you success."
"A lot" does not mean "most of them." If that's what I'd wanted to say I'd have said "most of them" or "the majority of them."
And ElNota: "I don't think its fair that you put her in the position of defending her relationship/marraige to a bunch of strangers, especially when your advice was completely unsolicited. "
Who's asking NG to defend her relationship? Read my original posting and note the last sentence.
Flo and JZer also urged caution - they did not challenge NG to defend anything.
Remember, this is a public forum where postings invite unsolicited opinions, some of which you agree with and others you don't. |
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portochuck
Joined: 05 Apr 2005 Posts: 48 Location: Brazil
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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AGREE!!!!!! Thats what I was trying to....but I was trying to be nice. |
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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I guess that it is possible that it is not our place to question naturegirl's marriage but I think that anyone with a heart for others would naturally respond to be cautious about this situation. The reality whether we like it or not is that some people in poor countries marry not out of love but to seek what they believe to be a more comfortable life. Actually I would like to start a treat to see if people think that this is a foolish notion. I don't want to talk about being be used but the idea that some foreigners think that if they come to America that their life problems will be solved. (i.e. Money makes happiness.) |
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portochuck
Joined: 05 Apr 2005 Posts: 48 Location: Brazil
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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But do we know if this guy is poor or rich? Or maybe the marriage is based on just good sex.....Maybe they LOVE eachother.
Anyway gool luck girl |
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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I note that 'naturegirl' has not bothered to respond to the nosier questions. |
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ElNota

Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 123 Location: Buenos Aires
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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this is ridiculous. all naturegirl asked about was if anyone knew anything about getting married in Peru.
I'm sure that all extraneous comments were completely unneccesary and unwelcome, unless she were to say otherwise. |
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grahamb

Joined: 30 Apr 2003 Posts: 1945
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 7:49 pm Post subject: No comment. |
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ElNota, I repeat that this is a public forum. We post in the knowledge that our words will be read by hundreds, if not thousands of people, some of whom will say things we don't like or agree with. I will refrain from further comment, except to say that you mis-spelled "unnecessary." That's hardly extraneous given that this is an ESL forum. |
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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ElNota, I repeat that this is a public forum. We post in the knowledge that our words will be read by hundreds, if not thousands of people, some of whom will say things we don't like or agree with. I will refrain from further comment, except to say that you mis-spelled "unnecessary." That's hardly extraneous given that this is an ESL forum. |
I fully agree. It is not like naturegirl was asking for confidential advice from a loved one. This is a public forum where people are free to make whatever comments they like. |
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amy1982
Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 192 Location: Buenos Aires
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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well, it's not like other threads don't get off-track... there are unsolicited comments and opinions all over. it's the nature of the beast. take what you want and ignore the rest. one man's trash is another man's treasure and all that... |
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Weona

Joined: 11 Apr 2004 Posts: 166 Location: Chile
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 5:13 am Post subject: |
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Also, for some reason I think she knew subconciously or not that she would receive comments on the marriage or relationship itself and not just helpful advice on how to go about getting married in Peru (because really, how many people would know that here?). Especially since it was posted on an public ESL forum such as this....
Having said that, congrats, good luck, be careful! |
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ElNota

Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 123 Location: Buenos Aires
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 9:30 am Post subject: |
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Seems like everyone agrees. El Notarino was wrong. It was just a gut reaction. Forget about it.
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I will refrain from further comment, except to say that you mis-spelled "unnecessary." That's hardly extraneous given that this is an ESL forum. |
And I stand corrected. Unnecessary is spelled with one "c".
Was that a joke? "I disagree with you, and by the way you can't spell worth a sh*t." Lol. |
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Alitas

Joined: 19 May 2003 Posts: 187 Location: Maine
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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A kinder, gentler forum! ElNota, you are commended for your humility.
As for NatureGirl, good luck. |
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Seems like everyone agrees. El Notarino was wrong. It was just a gut reaction. Forget about it. |
Don't worry about it El Nota. You were not necessarily wrong, just that other people seem to have a different opinion. None of these opinions are infallible. |
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Samantha

Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Naturegirl, There is a bit of red tape in most countries, and I went through it as well here in Mexico when I married a local. (We hired someone with connections to help cut through some of the requirements. She also served as the required legal translator for the civil ceremony). I highly recommend going that route.
This paragraph below is included in the US Govt webpage
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_998.html
OTHER LEGAL ISSUES: Civil marriage in Peru of U.S. citizen non-residents to Peruvians is difficult, and documentary requirements vary by location. The Peruvian fianc�(e) should check with the municipality where the marriage will take place to determine what documents are required. The U.S. Embassy does not authenticate U.S. civil documents for local use. All U.S. documents must be translated and authenticated by a Peruvian consular officer in the United States.
One more quite useful Blog by a foreigner who planned a wedding in Peru while dealing with the system. (Perhaps you can get ahold of her somehow.) Scroll down the left side to the archives, by month. January 2005 is about where she starts planning the wedding, though I haven't had time to read the entire set of archives. Good luck with everything.
http://itsperubaby.blogspot.com/ |
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Samantha

Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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Oh goodie. Another one has joined the forum. The 3 posts since he joined 2 days ago are very inspiring indeed.  |
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