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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:10 pm    Post subject: more and more complaints Reply with quote

The fact that every meal must be accompanied by bread even if the meal is a roast dinner or a baked potato

The way Turks always lend money to families, friends and workmates and always borrow from same. Why doesn`t everyone just hang on to their own money?

The obsession with yoghurt and why they go ''oh oh oh"'when yoghurt ads come on TV

Why can`t you have tea or coffee with a meal rather than after it?

Why do you have to have ayran with lahmacun?

Why are Turkish primary and high school textbooks so childishly printed-with crap pictures and cheap looking?

Yapi Kredi bank is always so crowded that you have to wait for ages

The obsession with Hulya Avsar

Defne Samyeli is so achingly beautiful

Maganda in Sultanahmet who say ''I got what you need''

Poncey cafes on Bagdat owned by TV personalities

''Galos''-those plastic things you have to wear over your shoes in hospitals and some gyms.

Why don`t Turks have proper cookers like in England, rather than a seperate oven?

Turkish women dye their hair all the time

Agda is so smelly

In Eminonu they sell condoms from those barrows on the street-they can`t work as they are in the sun and must be out of date. Also the picture of a muscled bloke in Y-fronts on the front is porno

It is always ''ezo gelin'' or ''mercimek'''

No egg cartons in small shops

Turks in shops have to spend ages questioning the shop assistants over whether to pay by cash, credit cart. what is the benefit of paying with a galaxy card in 5 installments or paying by Worldcard in 8 installments
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am another TEFL dreamer. However, a friend of mine did get mugged down in Tunel a couple of weeks ago. He was very drunk(just been to a wedding) and immediately handed over his wallet and phone and tottered off home. Some of the things that 31 mentions I know longer notice and some of them I even like.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 8:32 am    Post subject: Re: more and more complaints Reply with quote

31 wrote:
The fact that every meal must be accompanied by bread even if the meal is a roast dinner or a baked potato


do i ask you why you eat beans,fried mushrooms and bacon for breakfast? and how can you you eat chips with everything....

31 wrote:
The way Turks always lend money to families, friends and workmates and always borrow from same. Why doesn`t everyone just hang on to their own money?


What's wrong with that ...friends and family members are better than banks.

31 wrote:
The obsession with yoghurt and why they go ''oh oh oh"'when yoghurt ads come on TV

?????

31 wrote:
Why can`t you have tea or coffee with a meal rather than after it?

you can have tea with meal ...no problems but we prefer it after the meals....it is like the English having salad as a starter.....
31 wrote:
Why do you have to have ayran with lahmacun?


you dont have to...feel free to try coke, fanta, or sprite..

31 wrote:
Why are Turkish primary and high school textbooks so childishly printed-with crap pictures and cheap looking?


i think because they dont want expensive books ..there are poor people in Turkey who can not afford expensive books ( this cant be an excuse)

31 wrote:
Yapi Kredi bank is always so crowded that you have to wait for ages


it is because people ( including you) do not use internet banking

31 wrote:
The obsession with Hulya Avsar


who is obseed with Hulya Avsar....is this obsession different from Pamela Anderson or Angelina Jolie?

31 wrote:
Defne Samyeli is so achingly beautiful


but she is married

31 wrote:
Maganda in Sultanahmet who say ''I got what you need''


they might have something that you havent want want to tell it to you.....

31 wrote:
Poncey cafes on Bagdat owned by TV personalities


never go to Bagdat cafes....money trap

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31 wrote:
'Galos''-those plastic things you have to wear over your shoes in hospitals and some gyms.


so hard to explain it to you because you wear your shoes at home too.

31 wrote:
Why don`t Turks have proper cookers like in England, rather than a seperate oven?


i have a proper cooker....kitchens in old houses are tiny so hard to put a cooker in.

31 wrote:
Turkish women dye their hair all the time


because Turkish men love to sleep with different women. Very Happy

31 wrote:
Agda is so smelly


then dont use it .....the other options like weet are smelly too.

31 wrote:
In Eminonu they sell condoms from those barrows on the street-they can`t work as they are in the sun and must be out of date. Also the picture of a muscled bloke in Y-fronts on the front is porno


we love taking risks

31 wrote:
It is always ''ezo gelin'' or ''mercimek'''


go to a real restaurant ..they always have "domates", "kelle pa�a" "tavuk suyu" and "haşlama"

31 wrote:
No egg cartons in small shops


why? are you going to eat cartoons with eggs?

31 wrote:
Turks in shops have to spend ages questioning the shop assistants over whether to pay by cash, credit cart. what is the benefit of paying with a galaxy card in 5 installments or paying by Worldcard in 8 installments



paying with a galaxy card in 5 installments : you pay it in 5 installments
paying by Worldcard in 8 installments . you pay in 8

it is what the bank and the market offers you....if they didnt ,we wouldnt spend ages for that
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

''go to a real restaurant ..they always have "domates", "kelle pa�a" "tavuk suyu" and "haşlama"'

The last one isn`t a soup.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

go to a restaurant and say "haşlama suyu" it is a soup .....
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 6:45 pm    Post subject: More for crumpy Reply with quote

The way when you have been visiting and the whole family stand at the door and watch while you are putting on your shoes

Is the only difference between haydari and cacik that cacik is more watery?

When the shop assistant chases you around the shop saying ''buyurun''

When you put your fork into the lemon wedge when you are eating ezo gellin or mercimek soup and it squirts in your eye

Are there any tall jandarma?

Why does an ''ikametgah'' from the muhtar only last 6 months and the muhtar know next to nothing about how to operate his computer?

Tost-next to yoghurt-what is the obsession?

Why do some Turks love ''kunefe'' so much that they have an almost mystical relationship with that dessert?

Erik-that horrible sour green plum. Nobody likes it yet on a Sunday in season little kids hassle you so much that it is better to buy a bag than be hassled. If you dare criticise erikler you will be told that they are very beautiful.

The crap gangplanks on ferryboats

Ece Erken on her crap programme-she is so talentless and owns a ''money trap'' cafe on Bagdat.

Ibrahim Tatlises crying every time he visits Urfa

Calling all Eastern European women ''Natasha''

Will Marmara University Goztepe campus ever be finished?

Ethem Efende-no shops stay open past 9pm so if you need beer you have to go miles

Kasaksker Migros-the smallest Migros in Turkey

Mercan Birahaneler/Kokorec places not serving beer during Ramadan

''automatic'' pencils

Ordu evi-not accepting people with beards

Tansu Ciller-has she ever worn any other top accept for a roll neck?

Mega Hafiza-horrible bearded moron who sells his crap memorise English vocab course to all and sundry

University Exam

No bedtimes for children

Shaving kids hair off so it grows better

Tekel bira

In photo shops when they charge you ''banyo parasi'' for developing your film

Guarantees that language schools now offer

Azra Akin is no more beautiful than you average Migros girl

Ataturk Airport charge you for using trolleys-anywhere else do this?

Everything is an araba-bebek arabasi, domates arabasi, Migros arabasi....

Not using ''British'' Ingiliz Hava Yollari!

Turks not having any general knowledge- what is the capital of France?

Kurds are Turkish citizens so don`t need their own homeland but Cecens do
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dmb



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is 1 in the morning and I am too tired to argue 31's points. Anyone care to argue 31's points? Whynotme?
My only conclusion is that 31 lacks eye hand co-ordindation
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When you put your fork into the lemon wedge when you are eating ezo gellin or mercimek soup and it squirts in your eye

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lemon juice in the eye-like that has never happened to you.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 7:44 am    Post subject: Re: More for crumpy Reply with quote

31 wrote:
The way when you have been visiting and the whole family stand at the door and watch while you are putting on your shoes


This is a sign of respect ..welcoming someone on the doorstep and while leaving standing at the door and sometimes watching you outside the door till you turn the corner...different culture 31, learn it

31 wrote:
Is the only difference between haydari and cacik that cacik is more watery?


really 31? you have been here so long and havent figured the difference between haydari and cacik...

31 wrote:
When the shop assistant chases you around the shop saying ''buyurun''


"thank you .i am just looking" there is something like this in English which means that it is the same in Britain. Smile

31 wrote:
When you put your fork into the lemon wedge when you are eating ezo gellin or mercimek soup and it squirts in your eye


relax 31, let it squirt in you eye....your eye needs it as well.

31 wrote:
Are there any tall jandarma?


no you cant see a very tall jandarma....i think there is a rule ...they have to be shorter than 1.90 m.....why are you asking? do you need a tall jandarma?

31 wrote:
Why does an ''ikametgah'' from the muhtar only last 6 months and the muhtar know next to nothing about how to operate his computer?


all legal documents last 6 months in Turkey and you have to renew it..... muhtar is chosen with an election and they are not going to work in IT departments of big companies..most of them hire someone to do the computer stuff.

31 wrote:
Tost-next to yoghurt-what is the obsession?


burger and chips, bacon and mushroom for breakfast pizza and chips etc....... the same obsession i think.

31 wrote:
Why do some Turks love ''kunefe'' so much that they have an almost mystical relationship with that dessert?


no wrong again...most people love baklava, kazandibi, sutla�, muhallebi more than kunefe

31 wrote:
Erik-that horrible sour green plum. Nobody likes it yet on a Sunday in season little kids hassle you so much that it is better to buy a bag than be hassled. If you dare criticise erikler you will be told that they are very beautiful.


erik is great ...it is God's gift to Turkish people ( water melon too )

31 wrote:
The crap gangplanks on ferryboats


IDO has taken over all the ferry in Istanbul and are gonna chnge the gangplanks....i will talk about it with the general manager of IDO for you.

31 wrote:
Ece Erken on her crap programme-she is so talentless and owns a ''money trap'' cafe on Bagdat.


dont watch her and as i told you before avoid crap cafes on Bagdat.

31 wrote:
Ibrahim Tatlises crying every time he visits Urfa


everybody cries even the Queen

31 wrote:
Calling all Eastern European women ''Natasha''


the tall German girls "Helga" and fat British girls " Sarah"

31 wrote:
Will Marmara University Goztepe campus ever be finished?


they are happy to be the only uni. based n two continents

31 wrote:
Ethem Efende-no shops stay open past 9pm so if you need beer you have to go miles


drink raki and buy 6 bottles ...enough for a month...

31 wrote:
Kasaksker Migros-the smallest Migros in Turkey


the size is not important, the function is importnt.

31 wrote:
Mercan Birahaneler/Kokorec places not serving beer during Ramadan


Turkey is a Muslim country ... it is normal ...go to "Cicek Pasaji "or "Nevizade street"

31 wrote:
'automatic'' pencils


use the others

31 wrote:
Ordu evi-not accepting people with beards


and not accepting with jeans too.

31 wrote:
Tansu Ciller-has she ever worn any other top accept for a roll neck?


lived half of her life in the States ...could be fashinable in the states.

31 wrote:
Mega Hafiza-horrible bearded moron who sells his crap memorise English vocab course to all and sundry


find a better one and publish it.

31 wrote:
University Exam


LGS exams too

31 wrote:
No bedtimes for children


there is bedtime ....my son goes to bed before 9:30

31 wrote:
Shaving kids hair off so it grows better


doctors say like that...do you know better than them?

31 wrote:
Tekel bira


but cheap and foreigners love the taste.

31 wrote:
In photo shops when they charge you ''banyo parasi'' for developing your film


develop it urself ...but the stuff and dont pay it.

31 wrote:
Guarantees that language schools now offer


students ask and they offer....what are you expecting them ?

S- "CAn you give us guarentee? Can I learn this Language?"
LSO-"Well, er... . 65% of the registered students have passed IELTS and 70% of the students succeeded in..........."

LSO: Language School Owner


31 wrote:
Azra Akin is no more beautiful than you average Migros girl

means Migros girls are gorgeous...


31 wrote:
Ataturk Airport charge you for using trolleys-anywhere else do this?


dunno ...never used trolleys...
31 wrote:
Everything is an araba-bebek arabasi, domates arabasi, Migros arabasi....


Migros arabası???? what???

31 wrote:
Not using ''British'' Ingiliz Hava Yollari!


it is a shame not to emphasis on the word British.

31 wrote:
Turks not having any general knowledge- what is the capital of France?


really!!! a Brit is telling me this...3 years i worked in Bodrum and the British where the capital of Turkey was ...and the answer was mostly Istanbul sometimes Bodrum and rarely Ankara....

most of the Turks havent been to England but know that London is the capital....But we do not care it just say British ignorance.

31 wrote:
Kurds are Turkish citizens so don`t need their own homeland but Cecens do


yes Welsh and Scottish do too...talk about it too.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehe.. 31 seems to get lots of attention.. is he/she really that important? Well anyway.. lets get back to the important matters.. Crime...not whine.. Although Istanbul is an interesting place.. full of excitement and fun.. including a new adventure everyday..it is important to advise everyone about the crime here.. It is very important to be on your guard at all times even if you are just takig a shortcut, on the European side, to avoid crowds of people.. Maybe it is best to deal with the crowds of people and keep your money and cell phone.. but even in these crowds your valuables can be stolen.. These little parasites that steal from anyone and everyone need to be taken out.. I think they should be exterminated like some the street trash are exterminated in some other countries.. they serve no purpose and they are a menace to society.. as well as a safety hazard.. I know people who were not lucky enough to get away with just handing over things.. one person still cannot use his hands because he was cut so badly.. Yes.. an extermination squad for these parasites would be a good thing.. but back to the topic.. lets inform everyone of these dangers in this city.. including the scams the other parasites run on tourists involving bars, beer, and whatever.. and let them make their own decisions of what to do with the information.. It is the least we can do.. don't tell people this place is "safe".. that is a bunch of crap...
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Istanbul is still safer than any city in the UK. I think people who are saying Istanbul is a dangerous city are exaggerating.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I write the facts as I know them.. and people can process the information anyway they want.. Give people the information.. this is important.. I love Istanbul.. but I hate the criminals..especially the ones that have cut, stabbed, and shot people I know.. oh and the ones that sprayed gas in my friend's apartment so they would stay asleep while the thiefs went through their things.. yeah.. I hate those criminals too.. the sniffers, the ones that are high on something, that come up to you and try to get you to buy tissues or something and before you know it their hands are in your pockets.. I don't like them too much either..
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Embittered? TEFL did it to me.

Mr. T used to say ''pity the FOOL.''

Justme started the complaints and crumpy egged me on.

I use Internet explorer.

If? Your logic goes like this: I don`t believe he works where he says he does and since I he doesn`t work anywhere else in Istanbul/Turkey I don`t believe he lives here. Right?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Extermination - what a wonderful idea and I support you 100%.

It should be organised by the ''Ulkucu Ocagi.''
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the subject of if there are some real tefly games in that tefler`s bible ''Grammar Games'' and ''More Grammar Games'' by that Mario Rinvoludicrous.

Armenian Genocide-alledged genocide please. It wasn`t one a half million but only fifty thousand and they died of flu.

35-what a conicidence.

I wouldn`t go so far as to say I made a mistake by BECOMING a tefler but with hindsight I would have got out of the tefl game after two or at most three years and got a real job.

Where did it all go wrong? Staying in tefl. I really loved it which I know must sound hard to believe but it really started to bite about year four. Money might not matter to you when you are single and in your twenties but it will when you are older and have a family to support.

Your challenge in no particular order: efes, acili ezme, Turkish breakfasts, kofte, Princes Islands, cost of living compared to UK, being able to eat out all the time if you want, salipazari.. I could go on but it doesn`t seem as fun as being negative.

I have never said the the UK is great but admit to comparing it to Turkey with regard to some things. You no doubt saw that poll-would you like to leave the Uk if you could-the vast majority of Brits of course would and I don`t blame them if they can afford to. Just don`t be a tefler unless you have got money or property or a pension behind you.

My comments on Turkey being applicable to the UK-I don`t see how. The difference between haydari and cacik? BTW someone for pity`s sake tell me what the difference is.

You mentioned embarking on a tefl career (I don`t agree that it is a career) I too embarked on one and had a great time for a few years but I hope you have a back up plan if you want to get out of EFL. For example getting on the housing ladder first, renting out your property and then doing the tefl game. Failing that getting a PGCE first.

As I have mentioned I did the prep in a crap private uni thing and it doesn`t get any better.

Finally on a personal note you call yourself an educator on your profile and used the past tense like a North American when a Brit would have used the present perfect in your post:

''why you spent so much time here.''

To be fair to you you did use it correctly earlier on. Have you spent a lot of time in N America?
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