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Midlothian Mapleheart
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Middy
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englishgibson
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| Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 6:20 am Post subject: contracts in China |
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Could you or someone provide more evidence that it is allowed to work/teach English for more than one company in China?
Or should I phrase this question as "is it prohibited to moonlight in China?
I am interested in this one!
I am sure that there are many postings on this topic, though the laws on foreigners working in China seemingly are being more and more enforced in China and there might be some interesting discoveries that many and I do not know of.
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tw
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Most contracts would state that you are forbidden to moonlight but FT's do it anyway. I know of one in Qingdao who taught at my second school while his full-time employer was 10 minutes away on foot. My last employer hired somneone who was under contract with another school.
Rules are meant to be broken in China as long as you don't get caught. |
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frigginhippie
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| Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: contracts in China |
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| englishgibson wrote: |
Could you or someone provide more evidence that it is allowed to work/teach English for more than one company in China?
Or should I phrase this question as "is it prohibited to moonlight in China?
I am interested in this one! |
Open your Foreign Expert Certificate. It says "Employer", followed by the name of the only place you are legally allowed to work in China. Anywhere else strictly prohibited, though highly lucrative. "Everyone does it" is not hyperbole. 
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englishgibson
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| Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: contracts in China |
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| frigginhippie wrote: |
| englishgibson wrote: |
Could you or someone provide more evidence that it is allowed to work/teach English for more than one company in China?
Or should I phrase this question as "is it prohibited to moonlight in China?
I am interested in this one! |
Open your Foreign Expert Certificate. It says "Employer", followed by the name of the only place you are legally allowed to work in China. Anywhere else strictly prohibited, though highly lucrative. "Everyone does it" is not hyperbole.
-fh |
Frigginhippie, believe me that I have "opened" my "Foreign Expert Certificate" and I know what it says.
Midlothian Mapleheart has posted and seemingly applied that it might or it is legal to moonlight in China, so I have tried to open up door for more info on whether there are any loopholes in the laws or not or whether I do not know something that others know.
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Midlothian Mapleheart
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englishgibson
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| Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:23 pm Post subject: contracts in China |
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| Midlothian Mapleheart wrote: |
| Ooops, sorry but Frigginhippie's right. |
I very well know that he is right, though I raised my inquiry due to your post on the top of this second page, Midlothian. If I have misunderstood your previous post above (on the top of this second page) then I am sorry.
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frigginhippie
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hehe, i read MM's post a different way too. I thought it meant that people say "local law" prohibits moonlighting, whereas in fact it is national law, and these people are really just talking out their @$$.
I'm not quite sure what "local law" exemptions would be, but if, like here, the school president hires you to tutor his kid, I'm sure that might give you the loophole you're looking for
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tony lee
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living off campus
sending contracts
dating locals
working for more than one company
refusing to work overtime
receiving an accommodation allowance
staying out after midnight
putting extra heaters in your room
cooking in your dorm room
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working for more than one company is not just a local law, it is a national law and your school cannot give you permission to work on the side.
refusing to renew contracts is the option of either party and nothing to do with any law. Just as the teacher can move on after the end of the contract, the school can insist the teacher move on.
Some of the "local laws" may be school regulations and many contracts may specifically mention them. If the teacher objects and the school won't change it then go elsewhere -- it's a free country. The problem with many of these rules is that we don't think to ask questions about them because it is not within our experience to expect them. For instance, living on the 6th floor without elevators, curfews for 60 yearolds and similar surprises.
I have a list of 50 questions i hand out so that newbies at least have a think about them. I don't really suggest they all be asked but some of them certainly should be. |
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