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pcdavid04



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aristotles above assertions are off-track...

the article that he links to, if i am not mistaken, is regarding native teachers in state supported schools???

it has nothing to do with buxibans and the like. those out-of-job teachers are not english teachers.

am i right? did i interpret the article correctly?
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clark.w.griswald



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ki, your questions are all good questions, but to my knowledge there are no statistics to support an accurate answer. The government keeps statistics about the break down of nationalities of foreigners working here, but I doubt that they keep comprehensive statistics about where these people work. They should and I wish they would though.

Ki wrote:
Out of curiosity roughly what percentages of foreign teachers in Taiwan teach buxiban, adults, kindergarten, or university as the main occupation.


My best guesses are based purely upon job openings and are as follows. Kids buxibans (60%). Kindergarten (20%), adult buxibans (10%), and universities (10%).
[Note: The kids buxibans group above includes teachers who teach kindy in the morning and buxibans in the afternoon. The kindergarten group that I mention above pertains to teachers who only teach in a kindergarten and have no other classes.]

Ki wrote:
Roughly how many are working "legally" and how many illegally (ie without an ARC). [I know the definition between legal and illegal is a big grey line.] I really have no idea but it seems to me that I know about as many kindergarten teachers here as I do buxiban teachers.


As you say this is a gray area and for the purposes of answering this question I will exclude teachers who have an ARC to teach, but are working kindergarten or second jobs (this covers most of those working for chain schools). So for the purposes of this discussion, let�s only concern ourselves with those working illegally without an ARC � and this group includes those teaching on visitors visas for travel or study, those teaching on business visas, and those who have overstayed their visas and are here now without a visa. My guess would be about 20% working illegally, and 80% working legally. Again, I base this largely upon the number of legal positions vs. illegal positions, as well as anecdotal information from those who previously worked illegally but are now working legally.

Ki wrote:
Buxibans will almost certainly make you work Saturdays. Kindergartens do not. Kindergarten classes will also finish by 6:00 at the very latest. Teach the kindy kids and take on some adult privates in your spare time.


This is largely true, but there are a number of exceptions. Traditionally classes were run twice a week, and the Wednesday/Saturday pairing meant that if you worked Wednesdays then you would need to also work Saturdays. Recently, more buxibans have begun offering �Anqing� classes, which are kind of a mix of baby-sitting/homework writing classes. These classes are generally controlled by Chinese teachers for obvious reasons, but often these kids will have English class each day as they are at the school anyway. This means that many of these elementary aged kids will have classes Monday to Friday, with no weekend classes. Although the market seems to be moving away from Saturday classes, there are still a lot of jobs with elementary aged students that require weekend work.

Ki wrote:
Your Chinese blood will make it more difficult for you to find work. But it won't make it impossible. You will just need to look a little harder/longer.


Exactly.
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