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kowlooner
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ChrisRose
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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Location: Hong Kong
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:58 am Post subject: |
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To Kowlooner,
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| Anyway, from what I've seen here the pay for full-time can range anywhere from $13-14,000 per month to $21-23,000 per month with a private school. The $13-14k figure sounds low, and the $21-23k figure sounds high. |
In my opinion, it really comes down to the hours, times and how fixed the salary is.
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| From a school's perspective, a higher pay level is not really an issue IF there are enough students to support it while leaving enough to pay other expenses and have enough at the end to post as a decent profit. A typical smallish school needs to be able to generate revenue probably twice each teacher's pay in order to cover costs and still be reasonably profitable. |
Poor teachers not only cause student drop out, but damage the agency�s or learning center�s reputation too. Once word has spread that a school or a class is not as expected or worse a waste of time, it can be a very slow and expensive journey to rebuild image and reputation. Other cost of hiring unsuitable teachers (high turnover), direct and indirect cost; admin. time for interviewing, placing of adverts, correspondence back and forth and of course observation and any in-house training.
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| Let's look at Wall Street |
I have seen their computer based learning. In my opinion it is not only dated, but not much different from a number of low cost systems which can be purchased off the shelf. The "Encounter" lessons would be good, however, they are let down by the quality of the "teachers".
I admire their advertising, size of facilities, but from a quality to cost ratio for the students, I have severe reservations.
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| Now, with a smaller school, a full-time position is not likely to offer much more than $15-$17k/month at the start. If the school is growing, then a teacher could reasonably expect pay increases, and probably some increasing responsibility, over time. The more students a school can generate, the more teachers it can hire, and the more it can offer each teacher. |
The problem with small schools is mainly that they fail to provide good curriculum / materials. Usually relying upon a secretary and not a competent teacher to design and produce them. This is false economy in so many ways.
Thanks for the reply.
In the meantime, I shall continue my search for an ethical employer. Yes, I shall accept a lower remuneration that I have been receiving as long as I can find a single position that offers a reasonable package.
Then next year after completion of my current course I shall be eligible for RT status and application to that gravy train known as the NET scheme. Just a case of swallow my pride for a year or so I guess.
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once again
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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Chris, there is a poster here called Hannuman, or some such, who says that he is going to do the PGDE this year, whilst at the same time joining the NET scheme. You should find out what qualifications he has. Maybe they are taking people with fewer now. What qualification are you taking now that would help you towards RT status?
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ChrisRose
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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Location: Hong Kong
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| Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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Hello,
I haven't seen the poster you reefer to.
For my own RT, I have found that my Dip.Ed. with a recognised Dip.(TESOL) will be sufficient for RT. This is the absolute minimum to qualify without a first degree.
BTW The EMB recognise DELTA and LCTL Diplomas, however not many others. |
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