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tw



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:42 am    Post subject: Re: ... Reply with quote

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Would I be required to have a University degree to work in a public school? I have a 3 year College diploma.


If you want to teach in a college or a university in big cities like Beijing, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Shanghai, Qingdao, and Dalian (to name just a few) where there are many foreigners all competiting for job openings, then yes you need a 4-year degree. I am not sure about middle schools though.

If you are willing to work in smaller cities and/or more rural regions of China, having a foreign face is usually more than adequate.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:42 am    Post subject: Re: ... Reply with quote

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Those taxes sound pretty insane, the average pay I have seen is 4500 yuan which comes out to $657 Canadian dollars. Is it more uncommon than common for the schools to take the tax burden?


Roger must make a lot of money if he is in that tax bracket. The first 4000 kuai a month is tax free. Above that for most is only taxed at 5%. And, if the school provides housing, etc., it is tax free. On my 5k each month I pay 25 Kuai. And, many schools agree to pay the taxes for you.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leishan, rather than Roger being in a high tax bracket, it is more likely to be unfamiliarity with the tax rates, or dashing off a post without sufficient attention to detail, that accounts for the discrepancy you pointed out.

The individual income tax tables for China have often been posted here. Roger would know the details, if he were interested.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:04 am    Post subject: Re: ... Reply with quote

jenkins wrote:
Would I be required to have a University degree to work in a public school? I have a 3 year College diploma.


There are certainly more knowledgeable and experienced people than me here on the forum, but from my experience and from talking to other FT's I'd say this; there isn't much that's not flexible in China if you know the right people or present yourself in the right light.

My wife got a job teaching primary school kids with no degree (2 year College diploma), no tesl cetificate and no teaching experience.
Luckily she adapts well and the kids love her classes. Maybe she's the exception; I don't know; the point is that if you're white and English is your first language you can get a job in China.

And before anybody starts jumping down my throat about the 'white' comment; I'm not a racist I'm simply stating a fact. I've run across more racism in China than I ever did in Canada, from comments about whites looking like monkeys because of our hairy arms to comments from language school owners about black teachers that make me cringe.
Right or wrong it seems to be a matter of pride for a school to be able to hire a white face.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:22 pm    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

in regards to the health test, can I get into China without having it done, and get it done in China at the school's expense?

I do not have any kind of visa at the moment, how long does it take between the time you apply for it and the time you can get on the plane to leave?

Another thing with visa's, when I get to China and the visa I need for teaching is processing, how long is the waiting period before I could start making money?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:57 pm    Post subject: Re: ... Reply with quote

jenkins wrote:
in regards to the health test, can I get into China without having it done, and get it done in China at the school's expense?


If you want to come with a Z visa, more and more provinces now require the foreigner to pass a medical exam at their own expense in their home country in order to qualify for a Work Permit, Invitation Letter, and Visa Notitice.

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I do not have any kind of visa at the moment, how long does it take between the time you apply for it and the time you can get on the plane to leave?


In Canada, the Chinese Consulate takes 4 working days to process a visa application (tourist, work, etc). If you were to submit your application on a Monday, you can pick up your passport on Thursday. That is of course assuming that you have all the required paperwork and you filled out your visa application form correctly.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last university I worked at paid me 8000 a month, about $1000 USD.

I never worried about taxes and I assume the university took care of them

Don't worry yourself about taxes in this country.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:47 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

Does the school supply the invitation letter?

Is there easy internet access in mid to large sized cities? I ask because my laptop broke down the other day and I will not be able to afford to buy another one before I go to China. I would just prefer to buy one in China.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:29 am    Post subject: Re: ... Reply with quote

jenkins wrote:
Does the school supply the invitation letter?


Yes, along with the Work Permit and Visa Notice that they must get from the PSB and Foreign Expert Bureau.

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Is there easy internet access in mid to large sized cities? I ask because my laptop broke down the other day and I will not be able to afford to buy another one before I go to China. I would just prefer to buy one in China.


Internet bars are everywhere in China. I am in a city of 2,000,000 and it costs 2 RMB/hour. If you will be teaching at a public school (especially college and university), you can also access the Internet from the school's computer labs -- as long as they have access to international sites and not on the Education Ministry's "educational network".
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