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dmb



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha, don't you just love Turkey. I just received a message from my student and she said the fire drill was cancelled because of the rain. Laughing
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Baba Alex



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmb wrote:
I'm supposed to be teaching from 4-6 today, but the class was cancelled a couple of days ago because at 5.00 there is going to be a fire drill. Isn't the point of a fire drill is that you dont know when it is?

Laughing
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justme



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turkey never fails to amuse and bewilder....
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dmb



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Turkey never fails to amuse and bewilder....
Probably one of the reasons we continue to live here
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howmucharefags



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eh????? !9th century invention by the English my bahookie. Don't talk shite dmb.
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Baba Alex



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

howmucharefags wrote:
Eh????? !9th century invention by the English my bahookie. Don't talk *beep* dmb.

yeah. How come they had it Braveheart?
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sandyhoney2



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

justme wrote:

My husband frustrates me to no end when he starts on about how the Kurds should be slaughtered, the Armenian thing never happened, the whole world hates and envies Turkey, and the religious should be smashed, because I know he's smarter than that, and he should give himself more credit. He's not an idiot. If he really talks about it, he certainly has subtlties of opinion, valid criticisms, and questions about whether all of it is really right, but he's very hesitant to admit it. Maybe that's what's so hard to understand-- why people are so afraid to say, even in private, that they might think differently from everyone else?


Justme - I know exactly what you mean. Our husbands' attitudes are practically identical. And mine is about to become legally armed in Canada... Ever try watching Ararat with your hubby? Or My Big Fat Greek Wedding? (An old Greek woman calls someone an 'ugly Turk').

He can be rational and sane one minute, delusional and frothing the next.

BTW - haven't posted or really checked here in awhile - what happened to 31? Or *whisper* are we not allowed to talk about it? And as for eslteacher1973 - not surprised in the slightest.
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molly farquharson



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you guys have kilts? I do Very Happy I heard that kilts were a 17th century invention and they were originally madras patterns that came from India. Doesn't matter much, I think.
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dmb



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you guys have kilts? I do Very Happy I heard that kilts were a 17th century invention
I do. Maybe it was 17th century. I'm getting my centuries mixed up
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justme



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmb wrote:
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Turkey never fails to amuse and bewilder....
Probably one of the reasons we continue to live here


Yeah, if I suddenly understood all that goes on here, I'd probably have to leave. No one likes a good de-mystification.

I don't think I could get my husband to rent anything with 'Greek' in the title, though that would be purely on a matter of principle-- after the obligatory rant he really has nothing against Greeks. How's Ararat? I've never seen it. I've also never seen Midnight Express, which apparently is the true cause of all of Turkey's woes in the world...

sandyhoney, does your husband believe Turks are direct descendants of American Indians, with cultural and liguistic ties? And that Turks deep down are just misplaced shamans? Somehow our trips to Indian museums in America only served to reinforce this view...
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calsimsek



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which Turkish culture are we talking about. The East is totally different from the west and the black sea is a world onto its self. I was flew to Kayseri during Ramazam and had a hard time finding any where open for a coffe and smoke the next day I flew over to Izmir and was walking in Konak at 12.30and every one was sitting in the open and eating.

We all now the c rap about one country one people Confused , but there's more than one culture in town, a hell of alot more. Rolling Eyes

It never gets dull. Wink
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

During ramazan in Kayseri you can usually find all the smokers and eaters up in the aile salonus (ama aliesiz-- usually just men this time) of kebap�is. There is food, it's just very very hidden. You kind of have to fast by default there.
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justme



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Which Turkish culture are we talking about.


I hereby blanket everything I say about Turkey and Turkish culture with 'It's about Istanbul and limited to the people I know and have talked to.'
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tekirdag



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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b]Which Turkish culture are we talking about.[/b]


Very good point, Calsimsek. "Turkish" is really a political term just as "Canadian" is. There are many types of people here.

When I lived in Istanbul years ago I didn't notice cultural differences much. I was, however, with a select group of people--those actively learning English. They were often internationally minded, hardworking, and well-educated. Now I am in contact with a different group which are mostly not internationally minded. And I used to think I knew Turkey... Laughing I could be here 50 years and still know jack sh**.

That said, the group I am swimming in now are QUITE different from people in Canada. This local culture is different and I don't think it is an excuse. It is the way they are. No problem there, anyway. I just wish people would stop bending the rules. It's a government job to stop that. It's human nature to bend rules. It's just that in some countries we can't get away with it so we don't try.
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Baba Alex



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

justme wrote:
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Which Turkish culture are we talking about.


I hereby blanket everything I say about Turkey and Turkish culture with 'It's about Istanbul and limited to the people I know and have talked to.'


I hearby state that when refering to Turks I am refering infact to the guy down the shop.
On my Mums road.
In Wigan,
and he's actually from Burnley and has no connection to Turkey at all.

IF I WANT TO WEAR AN EVENING GOWN TO CLASS AND TELL ALL THE STUDENTS I'M IN TO BEASTİALİTY I WİLL GOD DAMN IT. AND IF THEY EVER DARE LOOK AT ME OR ASK ME A SINGLE QUESTION ABOUT ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING I'M OUTA HERE I WAS BORN IN THE MIDDLE OF HIROSHIMA WHEN THE BOMB WAS DROPPED SO DON'T TALK TO ME ABOUT PICKPOCKETS. NOW GIVE ME A JOB AND A PERSONAL CHAUFER,


or something


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