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Otterman Ollie



Joined: 23 Feb 2004
Posts: 1067
Location: South Western Turkey

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:43 pm    Post subject: whats your next move ? Reply with quote

Ok, so you got dumped on ,join the club .The question is are you gonna let it happen again or just move on to a better situation ,outside the country if necessary .
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Baba Alex



Joined: 17 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:45 pm    Post subject: Re: whats your next move ? Reply with quote

Otterman Ollie wrote:
Ok, so you got dumped on ,join the club .The question is are you gonna let it happen again or just move on to a better situation ,outside the country if necessary .


Not all teachers are career 'backpackers' (I'm not refering to any person in particular by the way). And for those of us with families and nice flats in Suadiye, it's not so easy to simple up and move on. Is it too much to ask to receive some basic rights, after all this should be a nice profession to work in.
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Mark Loyd



Joined: 13 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well said Alex.

But you know deep down that TEFL is not a profession. I cannot even think of one thing about TEFL that is professional.

If you have some capital then the sensible choice must be to get out. As the EU train rolls on TEFL here will be like the rest of Europe and you will need money to actually be a TEFLer.

I don`t care for the ''nice flat in Suadiye'' comment. You are trying to bait me and I won`t rise to it. You agree to let bygones be bygones.
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Baba Alex



Joined: 17 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark Loyd wrote:
Well said Alex.

But you know deep down that TEFL is not a profession. I cannot even think of one thing about TEFL that is professional.

If you have some capital then the sensible choice must be to get out. As the EU train rolls on TEFL here will be like the rest of Europe and you will need money to actually be a TEFLer.

I don`t care for the ''nice flat in Suadiye'' comment. You are trying to bait me and I won`t rise to it. You agree to let bygones be bygones.


I'm sorry, wasn't trying to bait you, just a cheeky joke.
The bygones, are quite certainly, bygones.
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calsimsek



Joined: 15 Jul 2004
Posts: 775
Location: Ist Turkey

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm off this thing for a few days. Confused Confused

I come back and find Baba and Mark/31 in a lovein Very Happy .
This is so COOL , can I join in too. Is it ok for me to
'let bygones be bygones'. After all I live in a ''nice flat in Suadiye'' as well.

So can I call you ''friend'' again 31.
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izzyismydog



Joined: 31 Oct 2004
Posts: 91
Location: cold north-ish regions of Canada

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:47 am    Post subject: Surely you are dying to know Reply with quote

The theives in question are EF - English First, in this instance the accounting dept at EF Suadiye but all head people - Michael H. and Zeynep (we never heard from Bora but suspect he is in on it), agree that we were unreasonable to want our proper pay for September. We were originally at the Suadiye branch (wonderful other than this and Deirdre was great) and then went out to Kelkit which was not wonderful and last we heard still didn't even have textbooks for the students! I can tell you a lot of stories about that place but I won't bother... the issue here is how cheap and dirty EF actually is and we took the jobs with them because all we heard was good stuff!

We enquired about giving our 1month notice and they said they would keep the money for our resident permits from our final pay (about 450 but they weren't clear just how much they would keep since we'd worked a month they may have reduced it a bit) BUT the contract says that they pay for residency etc and the terms of leaving early DO NOT SAY ANYTHING about keeping ANY pay- so anyways we did the only reasonable thing and left over the Bayram once we got our pay.

We are going back to Taiwan where employers pay us for what we work and cab drivers charge us the same as everybody else.
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Mark Loyd



Joined: 13 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sooner you learn that all the language schools are the same, the better. Hours and hours of comparing English s hit with English s hite and how great English s hite are because they pick you up at the airport is pure bollox.
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