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Is 2000 YTL really that bad?
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Baba Alex



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my humble opinion I think that it's right that teachers should expect a fair deal for the work that (good) teachers put into what they do, and, ofcourse, our good friend Mark does have some responsibilities so giving up work is not really an option for him.

BUT

There are other jobs out there for native spekers in Istanbul, my life has been much better since getting out of the dershane classroom. No I'm not going to tell you my new job.



p.s. This months issue of BANT music magazine is on sale now.


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Delpha



Joined: 08 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone realizes - at some point in their life, that there are people out there who get paid more money to do the same job, regardless of what that job is. . . .

The question is how much more bullsh** are you willing to deal with in order to get to that next income bracket.

There are some people whoes special talent (and only talent) is figuring out how to make more money. . .I like my talents better.

P.S. teachers in the states make 33,000 - 35,000 a year (not counting university staff with tenure).
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Mark Loyd



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, the starting salary is typically 33-35 but experienced teachers make far more.
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justme



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I expect salaries differ from state to state. My mother is a special ed teacher with 25 years of experience and an MA. She makes around 45 in a public high school. Peanuts, really, for what she does.

Here's what she's up against: Special Ed teachers who don't bail on this awful yet rewarding job after 2 years are few and far between. Experienced ones who actually like the job and aren't borderline psychotic are very hard to find. My parents just moved to a new city, where, as usual, they are desperate for good special ed teachers. But my mother can't get a job anywhere. Why? She's too expensive and over-qualified. They'd rather hire the newbies fresh out of college who will throw up their hands and quit in 2 years.
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calsimsek



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quetsion to one and all. Rolling Eyes

Are all the figuers here being quoted in Gross or Net terms.

Back home a married man with two or more kids can expect to pay around 20-24 % income tax, and futher 6-10 % in state and local taxs as well as 1% of your income as a fee for national health. Crying or Very sad

Most young single things can expect to pay around 35-40 % in total.

So even if a teacher is gets 40,000 p/a gross their take home pay will come out to around 32,000 - 28,000 at best.

Add to this that only us olddies don't have to worry about hugh student loans
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Mark Loyd



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least they get something for their tax.
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Mark Loyd



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baba Alex wrote:
In my humble opinion I think that it's right that teachers should expect a fair deal for the work that (good) teachers put into what they do, and, ofcourse, our good friend Mark does have some responsibilities so giving up work is not really an option for him.

BUT

There are other jobs out there for native spekers in Istanbul, my life has been much better since getting out of the dershane classroom. No I'm not going to tell you my new job.

No doubt if you keep telling people that you won't tell them what your new job is, eventually some dullard will actually ask you.


p.s. This months issue of BANT music magazine is on sale now.
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