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Brooks
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1369 Location: Sagamihara
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redafiya
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 33
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:33 am Post subject: |
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Looks like a great book -- I am a big fan of graphic novels anyway, so that looks like one to watch out for. Is there any text in it, or just woodcut style graphics?
Thanks for the link. This is one to buy after the Xmas expenditure! |
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Brooks
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1369 Location: Sagamihara
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:54 am Post subject: |
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yes there is text too.
Click on the pictures. It is a little hard to read, though.
The sequel is also a good book. |
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Queen of Sheba
Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 397
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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kristina wrote: |
scot47, I am very interested in the perspective of non-US citizens as well. (I've actually gotten a lot of valuable insight from your posts in particular in various forums here, for which I thank you.) It's just that basically, I'm in the US, my site's in the US, and USians are notoriously likely to sue anyone or anything at the drop of a hat, so yes, I am interested in the safety of USians in particular as well as in the legalities of even being able to get a visa. Since my site's more of a personal hobby that got out of control, I don't charge for posting or viewing jobs and thus I don't really have any interest other than putting up jobs that I myself might like to apply for.
I have another announcement I'm also considering not posting, since it's in Nigeria, and from what I've read on this forum -- some from scot47 -- and elsewhere, that's not exactly a great place for westerners to go teach either, US or not.
Tough call. Maybe I should post such jobs, but refuse to display them if the IP address is in the US? Or just put a big giant red warning on them that, if you are in the US, you might not be able to legally work there.
Heh. For years I get nothing but Korea and China with the occasional Czech Republic and now this. |
What's so tough about it, just that the is culture is different and the state department doesnt suggest travel there? So what about Iraq or Afghanistan, the US is there, but the countries are little to no safer than they were before the US presence, so would you post job openings for those countries?
Americans can and do get work visas for Iran, and the employer certainly knows that - or they wouldn't be asking for Americans in the job posting. I know expats working and or living in Iran from most every Western country. Anyway, this is an issue between embassies and employees, once hired, you don't need to worry about identifying that before posting jobs. Many times, people dont get visas when they are promised them due to their country's visas being maxed out anyway, so for you to go into politics and legalities when posting jobs is really complicating things, and may not prove to be accurate anyway, not to mention severely limiting the possibilities to certain predictable countries alone.
This is really sad to read, are you posting jobs as a hobby or as a US State Department agent? I can't understand why you would assume that ESL teachers aren't able to make their own decisions about where they would like to teach. Why not let people make up their own minds and serve your fellow ESL teachers by providing them with unbias information. If everyone who taught ESL thought along this line, where would we be today? Not in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Lebanon, China, Korea, Eastern Europe.
The fact is ESL teachers want to travel and want to experience life on a different level, and most don't care much for State Dept announcements. I am suprised you dont know this and would judge a job post based on the country its from.
By the way America and England, and before them the French, first set up missionary language schools in Iran in the early 1900s, and English is the most widely spoken Western language in Iran. Read some books on the history of ESL and open up your mind before sending out the next round of job openings for the sake of all ESL teachers - because we can think for ourselves!
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stoth1972
Joined: 16 May 2003 Posts: 674 Location: Seattle, Washington
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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From an Iranian friend, I was under the impression that no americans were granted visas on a normal basis unless they came in large groups (?) or if a company sponsored the visit. Not sure how much truth there is behind it, but she said the average american waltzing in was not gonna happen. Backing up the comments on Iraniasns: lovely people...extremely hospitable. I've always had such positive experiences teaching them, making friends with them, etc. |
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Queen of Sheba
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 6:19 pm Post subject: work visas |
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This is what the topic is about - being employed to work in Iran by a company in Hamedan, Iran. So, yes I can reaffirm that Americans can and do get work visas, sponsored by a business or institution or government body. I know this from personal experience of working in Iran recently.
Tourist visas are another matter and harder to attain, however not unheard of especially, as you mentioned, in tour groups. I know a group of Americans who toured Iran on tourist visas a few years ago, and I know it still happens today. The average American, traveling alone and without a business' sponsorship, or family in Iran to sponsor him or her, would have a nearly impossible chance of getting a tourist visa. However, I know a European, who had no connections in Iran, that got a tourist visa to Iran issued last summer 2005 without any problems what so ever. In fact, she went there entirely on her own without any friend or connections in Iran, and she said she had a really nice time without any trouble or harrassment at all.
Anyway, I just believe ESL teachers, too optimistically it would seem, are a special breed who aren�t always concerned with politics and US travel advisories. So, its an insult and a disservice to not advertise all job openings to "protect us" from the enemy or "dirty 3rd World Country" or to "educate us" on the US' international relations. In my opinion, they should all be posted, and the teachers should be the ones to decide if its right or wrong for them. Job posts certainly should not be judged based on the posting country's status within the "axis of evil" or any other conditions of the country. I would just hope we, as teachers, could be a little less racist and prejudiced than making surface level judgements on something as innocent and well-intentioned as an employment opportunity - just because they arent media friendly. Obviously we are competant enough to make our own personal decisions about what and where is best for our lives and professional development. None of those decisions can be made if the job post ends up in someone's recycle bin though.
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stoth1972
Joined: 16 May 2003 Posts: 674 Location: Seattle, Washington
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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Probably the best way would be to go as a tourist and try within the country, but I'm not sure of the legalities of that step.
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Hence my suggestion that entering on a tourist visa might be difficult. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Americans can and do get tourist visas without going with large groups. You have to go through a travel agency and jump through a few hoops, but I know a few who have done just that in the last 5 years.
And they loved it, just as everyone does who makes the effort. Of course, in the last few months, things have become a bit more tense and it may get more difficult.
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caliph
Joined: 05 Jun 2006 Posts: 218 Location: Iceland
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:01 am Post subject: |
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If you got a job there and a legal visa, you would have a good time and find the people very friendly and helpful. They don't look at your nationality, just you as an individual.
There is a LOT of goodwill among the Iranian people for Americans. There are hundreds of thousands of Iranians in the US and they and their relatives travel back and forth regularly with no problems. |
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Queen of Sheba
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Right.
And right. And from Americans.
So why won't original poster of this thread Kristina post job listings in Iran? |
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