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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Posts: 4672
Location: Western Japan

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Motley_Crue wrote:

and is it "that rare" to get your room and board paid for in Japan? Even if you go through aprogram like nova?



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From everything I've heard and seen, yes. And Nova isn't a "program;" it's a real, actual job.
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If you get a job with NOVA they will provide you with shared accomodation but you will not only pay rent but you will be charged rent PER person not per apartment, leaving NOVA with a tidy profit from the rent from 2-3 people in one apartment.

Renting your own apartment will mean fronting up with key money and agents fees which amount to 4-5 months rent in Japan, before you move in. Free room and board is virtually unheard of, unless you are exchanging English lessons for room and board or living in an attic above your school which means zero privacy.

NOVA is the biggest language school in Japan with over two hundred branches. There is no 'program' about it: they hire and recruit newbie foreigners to teach students in their schools, give you some basic training in the use of the texts and throw you into a classroom a week after arriving. Its a JOB.
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nolefan



Joined: 14 Jan 2004
Posts: 1458
Location: on the run

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey there, MC.

"if you wanna live life in your own terms, you gotta be willing to crash and burn" Cool

Anyways, do you have a bachelor degree? If yes, forget about that TESL course and just jump into it. While many people might disagree with me on this one, I'll stick to my guns and say that those certifications are completely useless for countries like Japan, Korea, China and Taiwan. Most of the folks i met that had one said the same thing.

I won't deny the fact that it could be useful in certain cases but you should be able to find most of the advice on these forums somewhere. Save the cash for a DELTA or a CELTA instead... those are courses that are respected and valuable.
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Motley_Crue



Joined: 13 Nov 2005
Posts: 14
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright thanks everyone for your input. and nolefan, keep rocking :)haha
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GambateBingBangBOOM



Joined: 04 Nov 2003
Posts: 2021
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a degree first (Linguistics is the most directly applicable, but you should go with the subject matter that interestsd you most, and that you are able to absorb fairly easily).

Then if you want to get training for ESL, then look into programmes. You can do a year long certificate in TESL at community colleges in Ontario for not much more than the certificate you mentioned would have cost you, and then the chance of being able to work in Canada is much, much higher. The pre-requesite for a college certificate in TESL is a university degree. You can also do a year-long certificate at universities in Ontario. They are a bit more expensive than a college certificate. Again, an undergraduate degree is the pre-req.
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