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[turkishlover25]

2 of which have recently been removed. Is more cleanup on the way? Have we finally violated the CREATORS too often?

[Sheikh Inal Ovar]

[rycal1]

Here's the problem, sheikh: It wasn't incorrect. I meant exactly what I said (think "unpalatable", if that helps). I know that it's difficult to conceive of someone else actually thinking before they post, but it happens, ya know.

Finding faults that aren't there, picking arguments with strangers... why? Would you behave the same way in a face-to-face conversation? If not, why?

Here's a possible answer to that last question, sheikh: Because it's obnoxious and unnecessary, and makes public discourse a very unpleasant experience, especially for those of us who are actually trying to help and/or explain things to others (as opposed to over-eagerly "correcting" someone else's post).

I notice that you haven't had much advice to offer the newbie. That was the original point of the thread, you might recall. (Can anyone actually imagine PMing this guy for help?)

The point I was trying to make to the newbie was to avoid self-congratulatory, overly-didactic posters who have nothing to offer but critiques and negativity. Most of the people out there reading this post know what I mean, and who I mean: People who feel the need to constantly attack others and bemoan the industry they're in, but don't seem to actually offer anything of real use or import. People who thrive on finding fault with others.

People who are in love with the quote function.

Yep, this has been a long reply. Somehow, it felt right to clear the air a bit. I haven't posted much lately, simply because I'm tired of dealing with people like the "shiekh"-- remoras on the corpus of public discourse (er, sorry about that one). Is anyone else tired of people like that?

OK, sheikh-- ball's in your court. Once you've finished looking up "remora" and "corpus", feel free to type out another unwieldy textual broadside against yours truly. No tears, though, sheikh; I can hack it. Hell, I may not even reply.

Well, g'bye. See you on the "maths forum".

[Otterman Ollie]

O.k fellow forum funsters ,the game today is to bet which thread is gonna be the first to get LOCKED for 2006 .
I vote this one ,just as its about to get really interesting too . Shame !

[Sheikh Inal Ovar]

Good to see you've calmed down a little ...

[rycal1]

Blah blah blah. Blah blah, blah-blah.

Blah blah blah, yet blah blah blah. Furthermore, blah blah blah something negative blah blah blah.

Inconsequentiality blah blah blah. Blah blah quote function blah blah blah!

And finally, blah blah blah-geddy blah.

Blah blah,

Blah.

[Sheikh Inal Ovar]

You've rather unwittingly , but quite fittingly, attributed all this blah blah to yourself ...

I think the effect you were after would have been better achieved as follows ...

[N_Ashdown]

Perhaps some of the posters on this thread should remember the topic of the thread instead of doing electronic linguistic battle with each other. Maybe go outside for a while, meet some real people, get some fresh air, and get off of their computers.

Anyways...DukeJob, what have you hear that's so bad about about the Taksim branch of English Time? I just had an interview with Karen Fay from that branch. It seemed a little sketchy, as she didn't really ask me any questions, and it was incredibly informal. I also can't sign a contract until I get there. I'm not sure what I'm going to do yet.

[molly farquharson]

Sheikh, get over yourself. it's becoming annoying. this is a forum for information, not nitpicking, not academic writing.

N Ashdown, what kind of interview do you expect? Do you think that people don't learn anything about you unless it is formal? Just wondering-- these are real questions.

Re not signing a contract until you get here, that is pretty standard and you should not worry about it. You will sign it as soon as you get here and then you have 3 months of probation to show us your stuff.

In another thread you said that most of what you read about ET was bad, and I think that is not true, except for the mercifully "retired" 31/mark. If you have no experience with language schools, you probably need to be flexible, as they are not like universities. That does not mean that they are "bad". If you have some specific questions about ET, fell free to PM me. As people who read this forum, as well as ET teachers, can attest, I call a spade a spade and will tell you what I think.

[TeachEnglish]

Just in case anyone wants to know the truth... all of these places here have their ups and downs, mostly downs if you don't learn to ignore all the management problems. Most if not all of these places are businesses to the people that run them and count the receipts. The teachers and students are usually the only things good about these places. If you are expecting to work at a great place and deal with professional management/managers, don't come to Turkey. If you can ignore all the BS that usually is thrown at you at these places, do what you are supposed to do, which is teach, and make the best of the "experience," then it will be ok for you. Of these types of lower level English schools, Berlitz can be considered one of the best of the worse, but I hear it is getting worse and worse everyday. And like mentioned, some of the housing provided from these places.. can be interesting. Teaching here can be an experience, which I am sure you will never forget, if you choose to come here.

[Sheikh Inal Ovar]

[sandyhoney2]

[teacherdude]

The Dude is also fed up.

There are some on this forum, who simply want to hear themselves babble and garner attention.

It makes taking some threads seriously, a bit of a chore - because you know before hand, that you'll have to plough through some verbal muck, in order to get to a post of consequence.

TD

[Sheikh Inal Ovar]

Not directed at sandyhoney2 ... there is no desire for tears ...

'Discussion Forum' v 'Chat Room' ...

... it seems the latter is what is wanted ... and so be it ... why shouldn't people chat about 'bacon' and such, and in so doing, run the treadmill of a twenty-year-weary conversation ... pleasantries ... tedious as they are ... exist to make people feel more secure ...

... as for jumping on errors, you might want to view my posts and count up exactly how many times this has happened ... but people do like to wield the tar-brush with an arching sweep ... and I suppose actually having support for what one says would make it all too much like a discussion forum where people trade arguments ... albeit over nothing ... something to which I would plead guilty ... but something which is evidently not welcome here ...

And as for some of the other accusers ... soyleyenlere bak

Hosca Kalin

[Baba Alex]