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Roger



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:34 am    Post subject: Re: A place in the Chinese sun Reply with quote

[quote="ytange"]
poopsicola wrote:
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I am Bondi and I am from NZ (left when I was 6) but I did a diploma at Strathfield Commity College.

e on !


When you have sobered up will you do us a favour and check the spelling of the degree you got from that 'commity college'?

Maybe it was "community College".
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ytange



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Location: Bondi -maybe gotta move soon(ex NZ)

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh you guys are cracking me up

I was like a bit partied out there last night and mr K gave me the word very crisply Embarassed

and scrubbed out my posts
me SORRY Embarassed guys Embarassed

wow I didnt know you guys were so ... I dunno ... shy or something Embarassed

yeh, you are right Roger its a community college
Waddya reckon - all go or what?

Sometimes you write stuff which I dont undersrand so I guess that is French is something.
Are you French or did you learn that at school.

If you are French then this poopsicola guy need some 10-4 but not me because I am a proper English speaker.


I have been checking out the weather maps and it seems these places woould be the deal for me

Hainain isalnd (any uni.s there ? may be too small)
Gaungdong - and Guangxai and Sichaun - i think the rest is too cold

I need some night life too so thinking about a big city with plenty of action stations Very Happy

I wrote to English First and they reckon its OK for me but I read on this site how is a slave farm and that not my scene at all Shocked
OH NO Fellas

I think a univeristy for me with plentyof spare time for social would be crisp Idea

You guys are awesome - so much 10-4 here

Waddya reckon?

Where should I head?

BUT NOW
I gotta hit the water and get crisp
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HunanForeignGuy



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ytange wrote:
oh you guys are cracking me up

I was like a bit partied out there last night and mr K gave me the word very crisply Embarassed

and scrubbed out my posts
me SORRY Embarassed guys Embarassed

wow I didnt know you guys were so ... I dunno ... shy or something Embarassed

yeh, you are right Roger its a community college
Waddya reckon - all go or what?

Sometimes you write stuff which I dont undersrand so I guess that is French is something.
Are you French or did you learn that at school.

If you are French then this poopsicola guy need some 10-4 but not me because I am a proper English speaker.


I have been checking out the weather maps and it seems these places woould be the deal for me

Hainain isalnd (any uni.s there ? may be too small)
Gaungdong - and Guangxai and Sichaun - i think the rest is too cold

I need some night life too so thinking about a big city with plenty of action stations Very Happy

I wrote to English First and they reckon its OK for me but I read on this site how is a slave farm and that not my scene at all Shocked
OH NO Fellas

I think a univeristy for me with plentyof spare time for social would be crisp Idea

You guys are awesome - so much 10-4 here

Waddya reckon?

Where should I head?

BUT NOW
I gotta hit the water and get crisp


It is good that Mr. K. gave you the word. I have found nearly all of your posts to be unintelligible and and a few others to be obscene and offensive. This is a respectable board where we try to help each other with honest, literate, considerate answers. We truly all do not share the same ideas and that is not an imperative. I for one have found this Board extremely helpful over the course of the past several years and it has provided me with answers and insight that I have not been able to find anywhere else.

Nonetheless I find that I cannot understand one word of English in any of the postings with which you have decided to honor us. Frankly, I hope that your contributions here in the future will be inviting and decidedly more ... sober ....

My last question to you is whether or not you have ever heard of The Betty Ford Clinic?
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HunanForeignGuy



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:39 am    Post subject: Re: could I get a gig in China? Reply with quote

poopsicola wrote:
I'm new here so hello to everyone and sorry if I'm asking the silly questions.

But I want to know what's my chances of getting a job in China teaching English. If there's not much chance I may as well keep doing what i'm doing and that's just backpacking around the world just now.

I'm not the native speaker but my English is good. I'm French by nationality and upbringing but I used to spend a lot of time in England with relatives there and so my English is good with good grammar and spokenwise. And I have backpacked in many English-speaking countries.

I've only got a high school diploma. I was a good student but restless. My math and sciences were not good but my study of European languages and English was pretty good.

There's no degree but I read quite a bit on history and world cultures. I've done a lot of reading on teaching in which I'm very interested because I think it can be a real force for good. I did a TEFL course recently for insurance. I think that's a helpful thing if I could qualify for a job in China.

I've got quite a bit of life experience and am full of confidence.

Do you think I've got much chance of getting a job in China and where do you think I might be employed with my background? I'd like to work in a university because I think for starters I'd be better with adults but maybe I'd have to go to less desirable places. I guess I couldn't expect to talk my way into a good posting in the rich provinces.

What sort of money could I expect to be getting? Or am I aiming too high. Please be honest. I don't want to spend money coming to China only to find I'm not qualified enough. Not that I want a lot. Just some sort of job security term to term so I can do some serious backpacking in China at holiday times or even if I take a term off plus enough money to cover travel costs.

What do you think?


Franchement, vous courez des risques considerables, n'etant pas diplome universitaire, genre "back-up". Les choses evoluent beaucoup en Chine, et les lois administratives visant l'embauche des etrangers dans des postes d'enseignement se durcissent..ou bien, si vous le voulez, s'appliquent de plus en plus avec rigueur...

Quant aux postes dans le secteur universitaire...les possibilites qui vous seraient offertes seraient plutot minimes...mais si vous pouviez vous procurer un agent d'embauche qui disposerait de bonnes relations dans le secteur prive aupres de ses "language colleges" ou bien aupres des centres de formation professionelle, oui, la vous auriez des possibilites..

Mais ne pensez point aux grandes villes...a Shanghai, a Pekin, a Guangzhou, les portes de ses villes vous seraient surement fermees, d'ores et d'emblee. En me referant a ce que Roger vous avait ecrit, il vous a dit bien vrai...si vous pouviez vous mettre d'accord pour travailler dans les arriere-campagnes et surtout dans des centres de formation profesionnelle, oui, la, vous auriez des possibilites..

Dans la ville dans laquelle j'habite, il y a plusieurs universites qui embauchent regulierement des profs de francais...mais il leur est exige a chacun de fortes competences universitaires verifiables..et une fois arrives sur place, ces francais ont tendance a y rester plusieurs annees de suite...

Alors, il ne reste qu'a vous procurer un bon et competent agent d'embauche en Chine, donc il en existe nombreux...

Amities du pays lointain,


Hunan Foreign Dude

lyonnais emigre
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ytange



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey Hunan Foreign dude

thanks for your friendly message. You are the man.

And if you can't read a sorry and you have to make mileage out of that - well. lucky for me I am not gonna go to Hunan anyway

I love your standards - telling me how to go about living my life and then you post this stuff which no one but the super-heroes can understand

wot gives?

How does that help anyone??

really, there is plenty of useful 10-4 here without using code

Seems to be Guangdong is the place and
Shenzhen or Gaungzou seems like the cities to be.
Crisp.

You have a good day too and keep spreading the word of tolerance and acceptance
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Mysterious Mark



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol! I don't want to turn this into a dialect debate, but I have to say that I understand where the I-don't-get-this-guy's-lingo attitude is coming from.

Please remember that no matter how everyday your idioms are in your local community (10-4, wot, crisp, the deal, action station, etc.), the rest of the world may be unfamiliar with them, and when in China you'll have to be adaptive for Chinese students, as well as for other foreigners, most of whom don't hail from down under. Try thinking in an international business frame of mind.

To Mlle. Cola, don't worry too much. If you can speak English better than the average Chinese English teacher, you have something valuable to offer. The only way you would be harming anyone's education is if you're being hired instead of someone who's better qualified. At many schools, it comes down to a choice between having a foreign teacher and not having a foreign teacher, rather than choosing between multiple foreign candidates. (And I don't want to turn this into a repeat of the "teacher shortage?" thread either, as that's already been done recently enough. I'm just stating my opinion here.) Bonne chance!
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ytange



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Mysterious Mark

Oh, yeh, i get your drift very crisply!

I have been reading some books from the library and I reckon I just gotta keep it simple with no street slang right?

I will speak to my counsellor too and may be they can help me with some of the juice

At my college we had to do presentations to our class and I learnt to speak more slowly and more academic way - but I'm just banging this stuff out on a net bar or the library at college (where it free.)
so I hurry -

I am waiting on some e-mails I sent to Hainain and Guandong
At college, even if we finish study then we have the work place counsellors to help us with stuff like the C v


I really appreciate your advice marko - thanx - that is mega
CRISP Wink


You know I did not know about not English speakers teaching English so for that pop-cola dude or dudette, they will be OK, right?
May be they need some more education though

How many dudes are in China like this ?

Why dont they teach the other language but not English?
Like if that was my language, French, that is wot I would teach, right

why do the other language when that is not their first language
Strange to me


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pc-pocket



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roger wrote:
ytange wrote:
whao dude are ya crazy?

Quote:
Aucune idee!


What's up, lout? I speak my mind in the manner I alone decide, caramba! Porco Dio! Goedverdommed! Fouchtra et merde de merde!
Roger tu devrais fermer ta gueulle...
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ytange



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh come on guys

you are messing with my head right

marko the man says I gotta speak better and now more of these other languages I cannot understand

More french or wot?

Who are the french people here?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ytange wrote:


Who are the french people here?
Roger is french
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ytange



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so Roger and this Popsy-cola character and this Hunan Foreign dude
may be more right

Like China is little Paris Idea
Crisply interesting
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2 over lee



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best new entry on this forum for quite some time>

Keep it itchy "ytange".
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woza17



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am I the only one that thinks that Ytange is a troll and is yanking our chains?
If he isn't, then God help him, us and the Chinese students.
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2 over lee



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We need to enjoy the joke.

I mean "crisp", that, like, its like totally original...its like cool, the rest of you guys are like naf.
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HunanForeignGuy



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

woza17 wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks that Ytange is a troll and is yanking our chains?
If he isn't, then God help him, us and the Chinese students.


Dear Woza,

Thank you very much. I concur.

But he is just a "poseur". Anyway, all of this is way off-topic...we should be proferring advice to the original poster, I think...

But again, I thoroughly concur. And for the "jokes" to which a previous poster refers....passons...

All the best from Hunan,


Hunan Foreign Guy

P.S. And he only wants Beijing, Shanghai, GuangZhou? .....
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