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Spiderman Too
Joined: 15 Aug 2004
Posts: 732
Location: Caught in my own web
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A review:-
jeffinflorida - 43, 6'2" and about 260 lbs from Queens, New York
BROKEN CONTRACTS / MIDNIGHT RUNS
Started at Quanzhou Normal University around February 21.
Left Quanzhou Normal University around May 9.
Lasted 2 1/2 months
Started at a new university around September 5
Left the new university around October 23
Lasted 6 weeks
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| I stand by my post. Quanzhou Normal Univeristy is a very decent place....The University is huge and a very new campus and appears to be run very well. |
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I worked at QUANZHOU NORMAL UNIVERSITY for 1 term
When I first arrived I was pretty happy with the school and the way I was treated.
By the end of the term I was highly dissatisfied with the school and many students.
The FAO is a 'Little Richard" head. He lies to you with a smile on his face. can pay you get a degree - it is as simple as that.
CHEATING is an acceptable practice at the university
THINK TWICE BEFORE WORKING THERE... my advice. |
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:02 am Post subject: The Running Man...
I was basically fed up at my school. ...So one day I did my imitation of The Running Man. I packed my stuff and left. No good-byes to the school or notice. No letter of resignation. I didn't even give them the key to the apartment.
I simply left |
'L' VISA OR 'F' VISA?
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| Let me also answer an original question of this topic. I have a 30 day F visa. |
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| I came on an f visa for 30 days. I am working for a government - public school. |
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| I only got a 30 day while in Hong Kong and didn't think about it. But if I had a 90 day or 6 month the school would have more time to get it done for me. My visa expired today, they simply went to the police station that is close by and got it extended. The police obviously know I work at the school and it's an L, you think they care? The local cops always wave at me and smile when they see me... |
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| The point of the post is simply to say that the school told me to come here on a tourist visa and they would procure me a Z visa. I did, they did, all is fine. |
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| Ok, I came to China on a 30 day L visa that I got in Hong Kong. I started work at a PUBLIC School on that L visa 4 days after entering China. |
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| I was lucky - I had a tourist visa changed to a Z with no problem. |
MR MORALITY
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Hey, I am 42, maybe 265lbs and about 6'2". These little China Dolls just love me. So many of the girls at the school where I work come up to me and say how handsome I am.
I love it here... |
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| I would love to marry a Chinese girl. They see nothing wrong with me being 42 and them being 21 or 22. |
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| I was in the school canteen one day and one of my students got on line behind me. We were chatting (she IS rather pretty) ..... A few weeks later I had this same student in my 3-bedroom apartment |
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So I have been at this university for about 3 months now and have been enjoying it immensely. The school is nice, the students are nice, the area is ok, and the accommodations are very nice.
But the dream has ended.
Why?
So one night at about 10pm a friend of mine, a female friend, is coming up the stairs to my apartment and Mr. FAO - who lives on the 5th floor- is coming down. He asks her where she is going and she tells him my apartment.He's very rude to her and she leaves and he calls me and asks me why she is coming over so late.
So now, I am being watched.
I am unhappy and feel that living on campus is not viable anymore |
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She is NOT one of my students and not even in my program. There are numerous programs at this school.
I did not meet her in the scope of my duties as a teacher at this school.
I did not approach her in any way looking for a date or relationship or even friendship. She introduced herself to me one day. |
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| Truth is I am board too. I go shopping alot but seeing there are no real clothes here that fit me I buy my cute little 21 year old girlfriend clothes. I like to buy her pretty little underware |
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When I came to the current public university before i signed the contract i made it clear to the FAO girl that i have a girlfriend who is a student in the public university up the road and i will only work here if she is allowed to come to my (on campus) house whenever, sleep over, and have a key to my rooms without an issue.
The university agreed quickly. |
MR MORALITY NO: 2
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As stated in my post, my university gave me full reimbursement for Florida to Hong Kong AND Shenzen to Quanzhou within 2 weeks of the new semester.
18,200 yuan in cash, up front! |
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Babala wrote:
Jeff did you happen to return the airfare they gave you up-front?
No.
FAO girl said to me I could return the upfront airfare and leave the school if I wish.
But the way they treated me was far from professional. I decided I wouldn't even give them a goodbye.
They did not deserve any courtesy from me as they never gave me any. Upfront airfare does not buy loyalty from me - respect does. |
BUT IS THE GIRLFRIEND, 20 OR 21 YEARS OLD
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| Face it, if I send my pretty little 21 yr old Chinese girlfriend into the same store in Beijing |
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| as a man who has been with the same chinese girl for about 10 months now i will say thet no chinese man could ever make her feel as good as i have in so many ways and so many times. i do feel sorry for my pretty -now- 20 year old girlfriend when - if - she ever does it with another chinese. she will not feel much pleasure i am sure. |
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| Roger, in all seriousness, I am planning on wedding my 20 year old pretty Chinese girlfriend soon |
So, he has a 20/21 year old girlfriend and he�s a super stud!
STRAIGHT OR GAY?
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There are Gay Bars in this city. There are Gay Chinese in this city.
China has many Gays, it is not a secret. |
For a straight guy, he seems to know a lot about the gay scene in China
EARNED DEGREES OR BOUGHT DEGREES?
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| I earned my 2 degrees the old fashioned way - went to college, went to univeristy. |
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Most places I checked with before I came to China wanted a degree. If you are that concerned BUY a degree online. Instant BA or BS in your chosen field. $29.99 plus shipping and handling. No worries. If you want to make MORE $$$rmb then buy an MBA or PHD. You get to the next level with a higher degree.
Just make sure to bring it with you when you come over. |
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Mytime
Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 173
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But I don't understand why you posted it on here.
Remember before he came to China what a moralist he was. Castigating people for doing runners and chasing girls. How real time in China changes people. |
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Spiderman Too
Joined: 15 Aug 2004
Posts: 732
Location: Caught in my own web
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| Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:04 am Post subject: |
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| But I don't understand why you posted it on here. |
I posted it in response to a crude, offensive, off-topic, personal attack Jeff posted about me on this thread.
Jeff's post has been removed by the moderators, which kind of makes my post a little pointless.
I really don't care what Jeff gets up to in his life, be it in Quanzhou, California, Poland or Shanghai. But some of the 'advice' (misinformation) he has written on this forum does warrant an occasional alert for readers to be wary of Jeff's credentials. |
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tw
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:09 am Post subject: |
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| I posted it in response to a crude, offensive, off-topic, personal attack Jeff posted about me on this thread. |
Atta boy! Though I must say, you seem to have a little bit too much time on your hands to have gone through all of his old posts.   
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| Remember before he came to China what a moralist he was. Castigating people for doing runners and chasing girls. How real time in China changes people. |
That, or he is a real hyprocrite. |
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Spiderman Too
Joined: 15 Aug 2004
Posts: 732
Location: Caught in my own web
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| Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| I must say, you seem to have a little bit too much time on your hands ... |
True! Sad, aren't I? 
This is the first break (Spring Festivals and summer breaks) that I have stayed in China and I'm just a little bored! |
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bugsbunny
Joined: 30 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:20 pm Post subject: You guys are going "a bit" off-topic here. |
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| Did you guys really read the subject of this thread? |
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adamsmith
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Posts: 259
Location: wuhan
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| Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:29 pm Post subject: Those of you who have NOT undergone a medical check in China |
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Back to the thread - I have not had to go through any of the medical checks here in Beijing. Prior to coming here I went to the consulate and obtained a list of doctors/hospitals who they recommend for the medical check. By using one of these I recieved a complete check up and the documentantion done properly to the chinese goverment's satisfaction. So upon my arrival in Beijing the health office took a 5 minute look at all the paperwork and signed off on it right away. No further checks necessary. Once recieving a foreign expert certifacate it has been no problem transferring it to other schools with no additional check ups necessary when changing schools/contracts.
Therefore my advice would be to have the medical check up done at a consulate recommended hospital/clinic. This way the physician will be familiar with what is required - ie. stamps put in the right place and all the right tests done. |
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HunanForeignGuy
Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Posts: 989
Location: Shanghai, PRC
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| Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: Those of you who have NOT undergone a medical check in C |
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Back to the thread - I have not had to go through any of the medical checks here in Beijing. Prior to coming here I went to the consulate and obtained a list of doctors/hospitals who they recommend for the medical check. By using one of these I recieved a complete check up and the documentantion done properly to the chinese goverment's satisfaction. So upon my arrival in Beijing the health office took a 5 minute look at all the paperwork and signed off on it right away. No further checks necessary. Once recieving a foreign expert certifacate it has been no problem transferring it to other schools with no additional check ups necessary when changing schools/contracts.
Therefore my advice would be to have the medical check up done at a consulate recommended hospital/clinic. This way the physician will be familiar with what is required - ie. stamps put in the right place and all the right tests done. |
Dear Adam,
Well said -- that is exactly what I was trying to say in my previous posts.
When I left the States, I did the same thing.
Kind regards,
Foreign Hunan Guy |
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bukowski1234
Joined: 29 Jun 2004
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Location: Westin, South Dakota
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Adam,
When did you do this? The PRC consulates in the U.S. STILL mention authentication of documents by the U.S. State Department.
Though certain local experts may disagree twith the purported necessity for authentication, the fact remains that the PRC consulates in the U.S. mention on their websites the need for authentication of your documents by the U.S. State Department.
Are you an American?
This question is posed to Adam and no one else. |
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HunanForeignGuy
Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Posts: 989
Location: Shanghai, PRC
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| Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Adam,
When did you do this? The PRC consulates in the U.S. STILL mention authentication of documents by the U.S. State Department.
Though certain local experts may disagree twith the purported necessity for authentication, the fact remains that the PRC consulates in the U.S. mention on their websites the need for authentication of your documents by the U.S. State Department.
Are you an American?
This question is posed to Adam and no one else. |
When dealing with China, especially after having been here for a while, one quickly learns that there is (a) law, (b) practice, and (c) custom. This is a standard method of operation for all levels of the national infrastructure. And while the law may specifically state x.y.and z., practice is often quite different and custom is even farther removed. This is a point that I find that I am often making to China "newbies" or to those with no Chinese experience at all.
In the United States, perhaps, if the law says this, than so be it. That is how the common law system works. That is not the Chinese reality, nor has it ever been the Chinese reality historically, however, and a good understanding of this often differentiates the initiated from the uninitiated and lends itself to an easier existence on the Mainland. |
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bukowski1234
Joined: 29 Jun 2004
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Location: Westin, South Dakota
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randyj
Joined: 19 Jan 2003
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Location: Nanjing, Jiangsu, China
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| My experience in August coming to Huazhong University of Science and Technology in Wuhan was similar to other posters. My physical examination results, with the doctor's notarized signature and authenticated by the Texas Secretary of State, were accepted by the local PSB. No further physical examination was necessary in China. |
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tw
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 6:14 am Post subject: Re: Those of you who have NOT undergone a medical check in C |
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| Back to the thread - I have not had to go through any of the medical checks here in Beijing. Prior to coming here I went to the consulate and obtained a list of doctors/hospitals who they recommend for the medical check. By using one of these I recieved a complete check up and the documentantion done properly to the chinese goverment's satisfaction. So upon my arrival in Beijing the health office took a 5 minute look at all the paperwork and signed off on it right away. No further checks necessary...Therefore my advice would be to have the medical check up done at a consulate recommended hospital/clinic. This way the physician will be familiar with what is required - ie. stamps put in the right place and all the right tests done. |
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| My experience in August coming to Huazhong University of Science and Technology in Wuhan was similar to other posters. My physical examination results, with the doctor's notarized signature and authenticated by the Texas Secretary of State, were accepted by the local PSB. No further physical examination was necessary in China. |
  That's what I've said but does anybody bother going back to old posts? Noooooooooooooooooo............. What's the point of having the Search function anyway?
www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=33965
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| Send a photocopy of your completed report to the employer and keep the original. Tell the employer the report cost you a lot of money and you will give them the original AFTER you have arrived in China (also so you don't have to pay for another one should they not want to hire you or unable to get you the paperwork for your Z visa). Bring the original to China and if and when they tell you to take the medical exam again, show the original to the medical clinic staff and point out that it was completed on a CHINESE GOVERNMENT form. They will just stamp it and voila, your employer pays a small fee and you don't have to go through another medical exam. I used this trick and it worked for me. Whether it will work for everyone is another story. Face it, rules and regulations differ from one region to another in China. |
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HunanForeignGuy
Joined: 05 Jan 2006
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Location: Shanghai, PRC
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| Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:31 am Post subject: |
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| My experience in August coming to Huazhong University of Science and Technology in Wuhan was similar to other posters. My physical examination results, with the doctor's notarized signature and authenticated by the Texas Secretary of State, were accepted by the local PSB. No further physical examination was necessary in China. |
Dear Randell,
Thanks for sharing this information and also thanks to TW.
It does remain a province-by-province decision, though, and here in Hunan for example, all of the medical reports notwithstanding, and all of the stamps notwithstanding either, many, if not most applicants, are sent to ChangSha, the provincial capital, to be retested.
I had a similar experience in Hangzhou, Zhejiang and a similar one in Harbin, Heiliongjang, and in Chengdu, Sichuan...
Kind regards,
Hunan Foreign Guy |
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bukowski1234
Joined: 29 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: Those of you who have NOT undergone a medical check in C |
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>> That's what I've said but does anybody bother going back to old posts? Noooooooooooooooooo............. What's the point of having the Search function anyway?<<
tw,
I've searched Dave's ESL Cafe for answers using the search function, but found that I needed to plod through fruitless thread after fruitless thread.
Believe me, If I could have spared myself some exchanges with one of the self-appointed, closed-minded experts who make continual, irritating and erroneous posts, I would have done so.
I am finding this board to be more and more hostile lately. Two years ago, things were quite different.
Recently, I received an PM from a respondent on this board which, on any other board, would have resulted in immediate banishment. Here? Heck, it's Dave's ESL cafe where everyone's an expert, and everyone is free to speak his alledged mind.
Be careful, folks. Don't hurt yourselves too badly. |
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