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PlayadelSoul · Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 346 Location: Playa del Carmen

Holy triple post, Batman!

MELEE · Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:17 pm Post subject:

Just wondering Guy,

Did you count me as one of the recuiters?

Just for the record, since the start of my sabbatical, in Sept '04, I've not been the head of the Language Center here. Therefore, I'm not currently the person making hiring decisions. I am still envovled in the process, but I'm certainly not in the position to pay for someone to come to Mexico for an interview. Laughing

Guy Courchesne · Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City

If true, Gypsy would be only the second place I've ever heard of in Mexico that would pay someone's expenses to come in for an interview. In the other case, they even paid to ship the person back from whence they came after bombing the interview!

No, Melee, I wasn't counting you. There's also a distinction to be made, I believe, between recruiters working for several schools - as one sees in Korea, a recruiter working for one school (or school owner in many cases), a job placement recruiter - most prevalent in Mexico, and I guess I'll add TEFL/CELTA course recruiters. For the record, I would fall into the last category if I were paid to do it.

FreddyM · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 180 Location: Mexico

Hey, I have no problem with anybody trying to recruit me here either. I even posted my resume on this board in the Post Your Resume section.
So if anybody is looking for a certified ESL teacher with experience and an MA from a prestigious university, plus bilingual to boot, and has all legal papers here already, I'm all yours! (for the right price!)
I seem to be having no luck just sending out CVs by e-mail.

PM me.

FM

Sgt Killjoy · Joined: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 438

If someone posts here saying they want to find a position in mexico and a poster who works at a school pms them about an opporuntity than I think that is good community spirit. If Colegio Gipsy is as good as cwc says then he is doing everyone a favor. If Melee pms someone about a job at her university then that is a favor. If a recruiter, who doesn't charge teachers for their service pms someone about a position then I don't think that is a problem.

But if a recruiter sends pms to people offerring their service, ie the teacher pays, then that is completely wrong. From things I have seen on the internet, there are several companies charging teachers to find jobs in Mexico. We mustn't forget that we, as teachers, are performing a service in Mexico and we are bringing value to the school, not the other way around.

cwc · Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 372

Danielita,
You shot youself in the foot. I posted that to Lilli not you. We WERE fully prepared to have you down. We brought a guy from England last year. We regularly bring people from Canada. The cost of a flight is negligible. We have 14 ESL teachers and we do still need a few. I posted that to Lilli because I was in the middle of a squabble and I didn�t trust her. You got caught up in the moment and screwed yourself. NOTE to the 3 others, DO NOT believe what is said on this site. cwc

Samantha · Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera

Wow, what a professional way to communicate with future teachers, their initials on a public forum saying they are "still on" for an expense paid interview. I'm sure they can hardly wait. Cripes, every day is a new surprise with CWC, "only a teacher".

Ben Round de Bloc · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1946

MELEE · Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:35 pm Post subject:

FreddyM · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 180 Location: Mexico

Yes, I noticed that you have to pay to see the resumes posted here, and I've wondered just how much exposure we're really getting. I also posted resumes on such sites as occ.com and latpro, and nothing seems to have resulted from those postings either.
I also realize that just posting resumes online or sending them out via e-mail is like cold call selling, maybe that's why I haven't had much luck doing these things. Then again, I've only been doing it for about three weeks--probably not enough time to really see if this is an effective way for one to present themselves to potential employers.
These things are easy to do however. I need to take Ben's advice and just start knocking on doors...problem is finding the time to do it since I do work during the daytime.

sambeckett · Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 24 Location: Mexico

Sorry about the triple post.

As to recruiters and jobs-just be careful. Heck, I have had to be relentless about finding my next position. Constant foot work when possible - ceaseless vigilance over the internet to find a job in the city that I wanted and the salary range that I am looking for. Basically, eight moths of effort and for my present position, one year. I am still smarting from accepting my present post blindly.

Up the flagpole:
I have talked to others on this post before about the matter of trying to format an impartial (if possible) rating system for schools in Mexico. Other theaters of teaching have this resource-most notably South Korea.

True, when in a bad spot one can leave-but there is always the problem of keeping a legal work permit and the time lapse between renewal and salary between gigs.

Happy Saint Paddy�s Day.

PB

cwc · Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 372

Sam, that`s we fly people in. To make sure we are happy with them AND they are happy with us. WE DO FLY UNHIRED CANDIDATES HOME. A plane ticket is a small price to pay.

Elizabeth Worthington · Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Posts: 15 Location: London

Guy Courchesne · Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City

Aw c'mon it can be fun. Spend your days in Mexico City dodging bullets and roving bands of kidnappers, and your evenings in nightclub shootouts. Keeps the blood pumping.

They have a sign at the airport when you arrive.

"Welcome to Mexico City. 8 hours without a kidnapping'

ls650 · Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia