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japan_01



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:26 am    Post subject: ..? Reply with quote

What about the warranty situation? Problem unsolved...
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:35 am    Post subject: Re: ..? Reply with quote

japan_01 wrote:
What about the warranty situation? Problem unsolved...


I just checked the warranty for my Mac. It says in Japanese and English the warranty for Macs is only valid in Japan. Its my guess that Windows machines are the same. Take it back to Oz and the warranty doesnt cover any repairs there.
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Currawong



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing you've forgotten, keyboards in Japan are different to the normal "US" keyboards. Punctuation is located differently, the space bar is smaller as language keys are located either side etc.

If you buy an iBook, Powerbook or Macbook, because they are laptops, the warranty is international. This doesn't apply to desktop machines.

As for ISP's, years ago I used gol.com, who had English staff as well as an English web site. With any other company you'll be dealing likely with only Japanese speaking people, though NTT have phone translators, so you can turn up to an NTT office if ever necessary and they just pick up the phone and dial for a translator for you.
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abufletcher



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reisender wrote:
Wait a couple of months and you can get an Intel iBook with Mac OSX. It will be preinstalled with a Japanese system but the install dvd in the box will allow you to do a fresh reinstall with an English system.


Huh?????? I thought that Intel chip sounded like bad news! One of the great things about Mac OSX has been that switching system languages has involved nothing more than a couple of (easily reversed) mouse clicks. Nothing to install or install.

Tell me it ain't so!!!
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womblingfree



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Currawong wrote:
One thing you've forgotten, keyboards in Japan are different to the normal "US" keyboards. Punctuation is located differently, the space bar is smaller as language keys are located either side etc.

If you buy an iBook, Powerbook or Macbook, because they are laptops, the warranty is international. This doesn't apply to desktop machines.


Absolutely get a Mac because:

If you get you Mac online you can specify a U.S. keyboard.

The laptop warranty is valid worldwide.

All the applications on your Mac will be completely multilingual. A couple of clicks and everything will be in English forever.

I can imagine all sorts of headaches if you got a Windows PC. I'm typing this on the iBook I bought in Japan by the way Wink
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Reisender



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

abufletcher wrote:
Huh?????? I thought that Intel chip sounded like bad news! One of the great things about Mac OSX has been that switching system languages has involved nothing more than a couple of (easily reversed) mouse clicks. Nothing to install or install.

Tell me it ain't so!!!
The Intel chip is very good news. Intel have got more production capacity behind them and that will drive the price down. It also has more development left in it as they are Intel's bread and butter whereas the PowerPCs were lead weights for IBM and Motorola. They were glad to be rid of Apple as the relatively small volumes they were making didn't warrant the development they required.

As for switching system languages, I may have been mistaken. With all the machines I've ever bought, I've done a clean install anyway to minimise unwanted files and apps. One of the first screens you see when you boot from the DVD/CD is the multilingual selection screen. I never knew there was a way to change this after the fact though.
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Currawong



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even if you bought a Mac which has the Japanese language by default, you can switch the languages in the International pref-pane and everything will be in English except the screen messages at boot. I've often had to fix Macs belonging to my wife's relatives. I switch the OS to english and fix it, then switch it back, just as you can on your mobile phone.
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womblingfree



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reisender wrote:
I may have been mistaken. With all the machines I've ever bought, I've done a clean install anyway to minimise unwanted files and apps. One of the first screens you see when you boot from the DVD/CD is the multilingual selection screen. I never knew there was a way to change this after the fact though.


You re-installed Shocked

To save you the bother next time:

System Preferences/International/Languages - English.

It automatically changes all the apps as well as the OS, takes about two seconds. A reinstall will just do exactly the same but take ages.

Also you can easily change all the default formats, keyboard layout, US/UK english etc...
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Reisender



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely. I reinstall every time I get a new system. If you know what you're doing, you can trim a lot of fat by doing a custom installation and deselecting a lot of the apps and kexts. There are also some options intended for developers and people who like to mess with system internals that aren't installed by default. Some of these things are handy for modifying the behaviour of apps and the system itself so rather than do it later when I want them, I do it when I get the machine. It's easier to just start from scratch each time.
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FuzzX



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought one on ebay for$232 CANADIAN. Im using right now... 1 GHZ with cd drive and wireless connection. pretty awesome deal.

"Dude get a DELL."
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