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Roger



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look vikdk,
respect for people has to do with what OTHERS think of you, not what you think of yourself.
And "respect" must be earned.

That
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Roger



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dkvik, I don't know what makes you believe YOU of ALLL PEOPLE deserve "respect" but surely someone who needs a local teacher to act as "translator" isn't worthy the money he gets?
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vikdk



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Look vikdk,
respect for people has to do with what OTHERS think of you, not what you think of yourself.
And "respect" must be earned.


well somebody who hasn't learnt the concept regarding the respect of their own unique individual self must, in my opion, be walking a very strange road - Rog you would have fitted well into the cultural revolution giving up the individual for the good of the masses Laughing

Now if you think respect merely comes from others then it also has a lot to do with wages since they are a concerete example of what your employers think of you, and how they respect your performance. You see professional relationships also open up for the concept of respect - take a look at your next wage packet and tell me if you think you are being respected - if you do then you may feel a sense of achievement - that warm feeling, in the minds of most people, tends to add to our self-respect - but then again its just a way of thinking, and as I at least have noted from your posts, you seem to be in a thinking league all of your own Laughing
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william wallace



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:24 am    Post subject: Dear Bendan... Reply with quote

nil

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william wallace



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:27 am    Post subject: Dear Bendan... Reply with quote

nothing to say

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Roger



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vikdk wrote:
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Look vikdk,
respect for people has to do with what OTHERS think of you, not what you think of yourself.
And "respect" must be earned.


well somebody who hasn't learnt the concept regarding the respect of their own unique individual self must, in my opion, be walking a very strange road - Rog you would have fitted well into the cultural revolution giving up the individual for the good of the masses Laughing

Now if you think respect merely comes from others then it also has a lot to do with wages since they are a concerete example of what your employers think of you, and how they respect your performance.l:


Are we deluding ourselves again, engaging in inflating our already inflated ego?
So, in your - in my opinion! - simplistic view the more someone gets paid, the more respect he or she enjoys...

This is why any Kuwaiti citizen enjoys a much higher level of respect or is it respectability? - than you or Hu Jintao?

And, why is it that you always depict employers as the most selfish, mammon-worshipping heathens? Do you honestly think if you despise them in your typical class-warfare attitude you get THEIR respect?

Why would THEY of all people respect YOU of all people?

What kind of logic do you subscribe to?
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vikdk



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well Roger if you don't equate wage level as one of the factors that give us a feeling that we are being professionaly respected then good on you mate - but something tells me, while reading those posts on your negative views regarding the Chinese, that mutual respect between you and your schools has never been a big thing during your China years - so why write on subject you don't realy have any grounding in Laughing
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william wallace



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:01 am    Post subject: Dear Vikdk... Reply with quote

nil

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Mysterious Mark



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:41 am    Post subject: Re: "spelt" Reply with quote

The irregular form is generally more common in British English and the regular form is more common to American English for these verbs: burnt, burned; dreamt, dreamed; learnt, learned; smelt, smelled; spelt, spelled; spilt, spilled; spoilt, spoiled.
http://dictionary.reference.com/help/faq/language/s47.html
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bendan



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:42 am    Post subject: Re: Dear Bendan... Reply with quote

william wallace wrote:
They were clipped just as I had started to make 12,000 a WEEK, and looking forward to my first month making over 40,000.I

...


Right now I'm teaching at a university, and the students couldn't care less about English because it's redundant, and I agree with them.


Why couldn't you have continued teaching IELTS and given up being an examiner? You seem to say the teaching was the most lucrative, but you chose to continue with the less lucrative one? Odd choice.

I'm also curious as to why having non-teacher acquaintances is a sign of your ship coming in. Isn't that the basic problem; you never actually wanted to be a teacher, but it was the only way to have the expat life you desired. It's hard to contiue with something you don't have any enthusiasm for.

As for your current students, they are probably right, but that's always been the case for the majority of learners in China. The country needs more educated people with advanced English, and also basic skills in the service sector, but it doesn't really need millions more graduates with lower-intermediate skills. If you go to Korea, you'll find quite a similar situation, although the level of development means more people study in their free time just for pleasure.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:14 am    Post subject: Dear Bendan... Reply with quote

nil

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Joe C.



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:37 am    Post subject: Re: Dear Bendan... Reply with quote

william wallace wrote:
As far as Korea or where ever, the main thing would be stability and/or a funky place(Myanmar, Bhutan,Peru...) ...


Peru is nice, but don't get the illusion of making any serious money there. In comparing salaries vs. cost of living, China beats Peru, but only in that regard.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 1:35 pm    Post subject: Dear Joe... Reply with quote

nil
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