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william wallace



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:36 am    Post subject: Dear Vikdk... Reply with quote

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Roger



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, Itsme is a bar bouncer... interesting. Does he use his martial skills to evict truant Chinglish practitioners from the English Corner?
Yes, Itsme, by all means, you can make 20 K - and indeed much more than that - working in OTHER fields, particularly on expat terms.
The German GM whose staff I trained made euro7'000 a month plus perks (one euro is around 10 Chinese kuai...).
He was an engineer of sorts, so he was not into teaching English but running a factory whose Chinese workers had to learn how to make modern boilers, heaters and similar appliances.
Or take Giorgio the designer from Torino... His Italian employer sent him here to supervise the garment production of a Chinese company they were in cooperation with; salary? I don't really know (you don't ask your amigo italiano such stupid questions!) but I know he must be making 30'000 in RMB terms.

But who needs a "bouncer", and how long can you do "voice-overs"?
Why not model for some fashion agency? That too is guaranteed to pay you much better; even making films pays handsomely. I could give you the e-mail address of someone in HK that recruits for such purposes.


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vikdk



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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vldk how has your status as an allround idiot and poster of irrelevant, off-topic, antagonistic posts effected (sic) your pay scale (sic - it should be "pay" - jobs have payscales; not people) in the years you've been here - and since the time you demonstrated on the China (Job-related Posts Only) board at Dave's ESL Cafe that you were ignorant of the difference between effect and affect or how to spell salary were you again ever able to command a similar sallary (sic) - for example during the two years you needed to go back to elementary school to polish your English to a standard sufficient to be a credible teacher of the language?


well thanks for thanks for the lesson chum - on my 13k/month for 16 hours/week I should have enough time to sharpen up my English standards to the kind of level that will have a possitive effect (or is it affect) on my Kindy kids Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm going to give Korea a go come the Fall.


For how long old man? In another thread you said that the picture of Albert symbolized your general condition. Time spent in Korea can really tear it out of you. If you're looking to boost up your bank account then maybe it's a good idea. If you're looking to revitalize your love of TESL forget it. I taught at an honorable hogwon and here are some of my experiences:

- Never had heat in my apartment for a single moment during the winter. I'm Canadian and it almost broke me.
- Roaches that were gigantic. Very difficult to kill.
- Absolutely brutal bullying between the teachers.
- Unexpalined seizures that wouldn't stop (never had them before or since).
- Given a split shift at the six month mark. 9 a.m. till 8:30 p.m. Monday through Friday.
- Up to 40 classes a week.
- Student stabbing brother in the back of the head with a mini icepick.

My Korean experience was better than other people I knew. Was the small pot of gold I had to show for my efforts worth it? Absolutely not! Does this statement contradict my OP? I don't think so. I'm trying to highlight the quality of life factor that China offers. If you want to enter the "big" money league set sail for Korea.

Itsme, I liked your last post. I agree with you but during my time in China I saw some people who would have clearly been better off living in Korea. They would go from job to job and live like peasants to boost their bank account. If money is your thing go to Korea. For quality of life, stick with China. Of course there are exceptions to both rules.
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amandabarrick



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I save about 8000 RMB per month in China. I have lived in Taiwan for two years and was able to save about the same. I have done the math and looked at the cost of living in other places such as Hong Kong, Korea, or Japan. I would probably be able to save about the same amount I am saving now. I agree cost of living is partly what you make of it, but one must live and buy basic necessities. Many things in those countries are twice or three times the price compared to here in China. Plus, in my city now what is their really to spend money on??? Not much temptation to spend lots of money on stuff because it's not readily available, as they are in Taiwan, Korea, etc...

--AB
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zaneth



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm considering China. Early thirties veteran teacher.

Seems that if saving is possible in a low cost of living area then you can take your pick. And all your experience and language skills and aculturation will be in the same place.

I definitely do need to save some money. Student loans.
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william wallace



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:21 pm    Post subject: Dear Saint.... Reply with quote

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stillnosheep



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vikdk wrote:
well thanks for thanks for the lesson chum - on my 13k/month for 16 hours/week I should have enough time to sharpen up my English standards to the kind of level that will have a possitive effect (or is it affect) on my Kindy kids Laughing
Yes. You should.

Ps. It's improve the standard of - or polish - your English (or sharpen up your skills) and 'positive' (without a double 's'). 'Effect' is correct; 'affect is a verb.
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vikdk



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dearest stillnosheep - maybe you have room to sharpen up your money earning skills - love to know how much you earn with your perfectly polished language talents:lol:
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