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qas419



Joined: 12 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if you are interested in the middle East, I would certainly suggest Bahrain. The pay is very good and moreover, life there is comfortable. There are many private universities and colleges which have recently started. They all need ESL/EFL teachers. But you must hurry up: usually first semester starts in August/September. With your certificates, I am sure you are qualified to teach there as English language teacher. Good luck
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thrifty



Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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Location: chip van

PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you been drinking.

There are few jobs in Bahrain and the money is very poor.
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moot point



Joined: 22 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You said salary would be a big priority because you're paying off debt but you are unsure of taking a TEFL certificate because it will eat into your savings. A bit of an oxymoron, don't you think?

Anyway, I definitely recommend getting some kind of paper to go along with your experience. Like previous posters mentioned, I think many conversation-type schools might be afraid of your experience, but on the other hand you could probably land some kind of university teaching job if you could supplement your experience with a certificate/diploma. Best would be an MA but it will require a couple of years to complete.
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qas419



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well dear Thrifty, it shows you are out touch with the recent developments in the world of ESL/EFL. The salary that an ESL instructor gets in Bahrain is much higher than that in China, Thailand, Korea and other European countries. An MA in ESL/EFL will get you $2500 per month + free accomodation+ allowances+ medical insurance+ free airfare. The English Lanaguage Centre at Bahrain University urgently needs ESL instructors; The Royal College of Women also seeks English language instructors and more.
Try it.
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thrifty



Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pay is apalling in China, Europe and Thailand.

1300 pounds a month-you call that good?
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ls650



Joined: 10 May 2003
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Location: British Columbia

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thrifty wrote:
1300 pounds a month-you call that good?

If I was earning 1300 pounds a month - about twice my current salary - I'd think that was great! I could easily bank several hundred pounds a month.
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paulmanser



Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BA is far as I'm going. Really going to waste thousands of pounds just to get more money in TEFL that won't break even or repay the loan for the MA?
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Henry_Cowell



Joined: 27 May 2005
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Location: Berkeley

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ls650 wrote:
If I was earning 1300 pounds a month - about twice my current salary - I'd think that was great! I could easily bank several hundred pounds a month.
And don't forget: According to qas419, accommodation, insurance, and other perks are free!!
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durks



Joined: 26 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I have also been searching for a country for the past 4 months and have decided on Korea primerily for the amount of money I can send home on a bi-monthly basis!

It seems that I can easily save �500 a month in Korea and would be in a position to do this as soon as a start earning money there!

I have also been toying with the idea of Taiwan but with the rent to consider as well as a 3 months bond I believe that I will save more in Korea and although I have �150 p/m student loans to consider can still live comfortably.

The additional money I save in Korea will hopefully put me in a far better financial situation 12 months down the line when I look for teaching positions in Thailand, Taiwan, Peru, Brazil, Phillipeanes, Indonesia, Malaysia etc etc

NICE!!!
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thrifty



Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Henry_Cowell wrote:
ls650 wrote:
If I was earning 1300 pounds a month - about twice my current salary - I'd think that was great! I could easily bank several hundred pounds a month.
And don't forget: According to qas419, accommodation, insurance, and other perks are free!!


I have heard that they even pick you up at the airport when you first arrive.
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moot point



Joined: 22 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice jab, thrifty. Your one-liners are often beyond boring but I liked that one.

And "durks" talked about his/her Korean ambitions. Good luck with that. However, after you start making a decent salary I think you may not want to give that up to live in places like Thailand and the like. It would be better off to find a position in Korea that would give you the free time to grab a cheap flight to visit the countries you listed.

Apologies to the OP for hi-jacking..
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tedkarma



Joined: 17 May 2004
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Location: The World is my Oyster

PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moot point wrote:
. It would be better off to find a position in Korea that would give you the free time to grab a cheap flight to visit the countries you listed.


Yes, far better to work in Korea - and vacation in Thailand - than to work in Thailand not earn enough to vacation anywhere.
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JZer



Joined: 16 Jan 2005
Posts: 3898
Location: Pittsburgh

PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if you invest about 5 years savings from Korea in a rental property you can just move to Thailand and have the same income as someone who is teaching there.

That would be around $75000 + the rental income you receive for the next 5 years. Some homes are more expensive but I know where to buy houses for $100,000-$120,000.
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Henry_Cowell



Joined: 27 May 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thrifty wrote:
I have heard that they even pick you up at the airport when you first arrive.

The will not pick you up because you'll step off the plane drunk and angry. Or just angry. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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mondrian



Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Posts: 658
Location: "was that beautiful coastal city in the NE of China"

PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

saint57 wrote:
Hi itchyitchy,

I'm a recent university grad from Canada. I really want to teach abroad. I've heard Korea is the best place for making money? Is 1,600,000 a good salary to start at? Can you really hook me up with a school that provides airfare and a FREE studio apartment? I'm really getting excited, but I need to start soon. Can you get back to me as quickly as possible about this tremendous opportunity?


1,600,000 Won is not a good salary. 2,000,000 a month with the usual fringe benefits, unless you are very experienced, is the negotiating line. As for jobs use this site:
http://www.pusanweb.com
there are at least 100 jobs a month here that advertise locally for Pusan; which is probably the nicest city in Korea to live and work in.
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