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aaronschwartz
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 145 Location: Beijing
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Children should not have children is one argument against teenage pregnancy.
Children should not teach children may become an argument against foreign experts who can not even be civil to each other in a free service forum like this one. |
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aaronschwartz
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 145 Location: Beijing
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 2:19 am Post subject: |
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Thank you for confirming my point so vividly!
Edit: This post referred to a now deleted post that was a gut renching picture.
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 6:04 am Post subject: deterioration |
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Am I the only user who thinks this whole forum is descending to the juvenile level of the KOREA forum ? Can we have some grown-up discussion ? I would ask for an "adult" forum but shudder to think what sickos would lurk there. |
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noonlite
Joined: 05 Feb 2003 Posts: 17
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:14 am Post subject: |
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I agree with Denise that we could benefit ourselves and others by sending more positive and tolerant messages. I've noticed the same tendencies on many other posting boards. These boards are a reflection of the relative consciousness of the people who use them. Clearly, many are not conscious of the creative nature of their thoughts and feelings.
Clearly they have yet to notice that the discord they experience in their own lives and in their interactions with others is reflected by their discordant thinking.
In general, even those who appear discordant are actually seeking some harmony and happiness, yet they don't know how to go about it.
Simply accepting that people have negative mind sets and claiming that you're being realistic is not the solution. Simply notice when you are being negative, and then consciously change your thought about it. Simply become aware of what you are saying and thinking as you go about your day. How are you feeling while you think this? Is this feeling pleasurable or miserable? Is this how you want to feel? Is this the feeling you wold choose if you had a choice.
We do have a choice. We have been living unconsciously for a long time. It is time to wake up and become conscious and take responsibility for our lives, ourselves, and our world.
The extent that we experience joy throughout each moment of our day, is a good indicator of our level of consciousness.
We can make a big difference in the "reality" of this world by simply becomeing a loving joyful presence. How we are being at any given moment is creative and transformative. The outer state of the world is but a reflection of the afflicted condition of the inner consciousness of all beings on the planet. As we transform our inner states, we will automatically begin transforming the outer states around us.
We are all powerfully creative beings. Are we going to notice this? Or are we going to remain unconscious of our creations? What are we going to create?
This message is is not for the many unconscious. This message is for people like Denise who are increasing their consciousness. Consciousness is a choice. By simply embracing and accepting other points of view, all of us can literally change the world. Accepting does not mean agreeing with, it simply means acknowledging and allowing to be. It means not judging or attacking. You have that power. Notice it. Use it. Use it in your life and watch it change. Use it in your work and watch it change. Use it in this forum and witness it's transformation... |
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bnix
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 645
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:23 pm Post subject: The Situation Probably Won't Change........ |
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I shudder to think of some of the responses to noonlite'spost.I do not really understand what nooonlite is trying to tell us,but I suppose it is a version that agrees with Denise's original post.
Denise's original point,that there is a lot of dislike(or as scot portrays it , juvenile behavior) on this board is emphasized by some of the responses to her post.Any way,Denise,again,nice try.But again, I doubt if it is going to change.After all,what can you expect? After all, a lot of them are not really teachers at all.  |
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leeroy
Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 777 Location: London UK
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:55 pm Post subject: f |
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My dear esteemed bnix,
with all due respect I think denise may have been referring to the "unfriendly" posts like those made, occasionaly, by... yourself?
But the world would be boring if everyone got along...
I find that, generally, intelligently worded posts tend to get replies that mirror the thought that went into making them. And that same pattern is followed right the way down to "where are the best women?"
Oh so true, many of us aren't real teachers. But I don't see a correlation between how polite your posts are and how "real" a teacher you are...
I tend to refrain from giving out abuse on online discussion forums, but I am amused (and often confused) by how much pleasure others take from it. Please let's not make this into a friendlier forum.
I like it just the way it is.
Leeroy.
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bnix
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 645
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:11 pm Post subject: Unfriendly? |
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I guess leeroy has turned over a new leaf.As for some of my posts being "unfriendly".. i suppose so.My point is that a lot of the "teachers" in this "field' are not teachers at all.If that is unfriendly....so be it. |
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bnix
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 645
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 3:58 am Post subject: Sometimes. |
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What kinda crowd do you hang with,anyway,Sunaru,TESOL teachers? Your statements might be true sometimes,but probably an oversimplification.I never greet people(male or female) with the obscenities that you mention...probably a lot of other people don't ,either. |
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richard ame
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 319 Location: Republic of Turkey
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 6:40 am Post subject: on the subject of adult discourse |
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Hi Denise
I admire your orginal post but the word "hate" is I feel a little strong for what happens on this forum,true some people including myself may have let forth a few cutting remarks in a post but these are responses to questions or comments not to the writers themselves ,we have never met each other nor are we likely to so really what happens here is just a heated discussion at worst and most of the time just trival and childish banter,even sometimes it can be a little fun . Beats marking the homework . |
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denise

Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 3419 Location: finally home-ish
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:57 am Post subject: |
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I have no problem whatsoever with heated discussions, especially when they address relevant issues and cover broad ranges of viewpoints. My initial post was a lament of the personal jabs that I've seen--things that have nothing to do with any sort of teaching topic.
And as to how men greet each other--that's fine if you have a personal relationship and it's done in fun, but most of us on this forum don't have personal relationships with the other posters, so how are we, as either the innocent bystanding readers or recipients, to know if the jabs are meant good-naturedly? |
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bnix
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 645
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 11:13 pm Post subject: Okay.Okay |
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No offense intended.By the way,who is your barber(avatar)? |
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