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shadowsinner
Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Posts: 35
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 5:37 am Post subject: |
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Hoser wrote: |
I'm not a huge fan of NOVA but they're ok. If you're only planning on staying on one or two years then they're probably the most convenient option. What's the deal with AEON's salary anyways? It states that it's 255,000 yen. Is that what you get each month or do they tack more cash onto it? For example my salary at NOVA is a lot lower than this but then after all the allowances (nights, sundays, service) my salary ends up being a lot higher than this total. Is it the same for AEON?
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you get paid more for nights and sundays? is that some kind of law in japan? i know we have such laws in aust that says workers have to be paid more on weekends and nights but i didn't think they had the same in japan? |
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sallycat
Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 303 Location: behind you. BOO!
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 6:05 am Post subject: |
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yep. you get paid more for nights and sundays with nova. |
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luckyloser700
Joined: 24 Mar 2006 Posts: 308 Location: Japan
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 6:19 am Post subject: |
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255000 Yen is AEON's base salary. There are regional cost-of-living allowances that get tacked on as well. |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:42 am Post subject: |
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shadowsinner wrote: |
you get paid more for nights and sundays? is that some kind of law in japan? i know we have such laws in aust that says workers have to be paid more on weekends and nights but i didn't think they had the same in japan? |
The Osaka MM goes all night with one shift starting about 10pm
If you work the graveyard shift you will get extra pay.
If you work hours in excess of a 40 hour week or 8 hours a day you get overtime pay of 1.25 times regular pay by law.
What are the maximum number of working hours I can be made to work, and is there any kind of premium if I work over these hours?
(Articles 32, 36, 37, 3
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The maximum hours of work that you can be made to work is 40 over six days. Anything over this must be voluntary and even voluntary overtime work has a limit which is set by ordinance. This ordinance allows for overtime of up to 5 hours per week.
Work over forty hours must be paid at a rate of 125% of your basic salary and all work between 10pm and 5am must be paid at 135%. Work on your designated rest day (one day per week) must also be paid at the rate of 135%. Employers must also have what is called an article 36 Agreement which is signed by either a trade union or a workers' representative. Without this agreement, which must be signed by either a trade union representing over 50% of the work force or a workers' representative, overtime, even voluntary, is not allowed. This agreement not only sets the amount of overtime but also sets how overtime is calculated (i.e. monthly, weekly, yearly). Please see the section on workers' representatives.
Furthermore, if you work over the number of hours stated in your contract, but less than 40 hours, you should be paid for this time ( though not at 125%). In recent complaints filed by the union at the Labour Standards we have come to understand that teachers whose working hours start and/or end at the same time as their first and/or last lesson may be entitled to overtime pay. |
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shadowsinner
Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Posts: 35
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 8:17 am Post subject: |
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sallycat wrote: |
yep. you get paid more for nights and sundays with nova. |
how late is the typical night shift though? is it generally past 10pm? that's quite late for an eikaiwa to be open, isnt it? |
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stillnosheep

Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 2068 Location: eslcafe
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 8:29 am Post subject: Hold out for 250000 |
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OP: 215000 is awful. Many job ads specify that propspective teachers must hold a degree but will be willing to hire you without one if you already have a visa. You should be able to get a dependants visa as your spouse is Japanese. I would hold out for 250000 even without a degree, although you will have to play up your teachng/coaching experience (sports/martial arts/anything) in your application. |
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shadowsinner
Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Posts: 35
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 8:42 am Post subject: Re: Hold out for 250000 |
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stillnosheep wrote: |
OP: 215000 is awful. Many job ads specify that propspective teachers must hold a degree but will be willing to hire you without one if you already have a visa. You should be able to get a dependants visa as your spouse is Japanese. I would hold out for 250000 even without a degree, although you will have to play up your teachng/coaching experience (sports/martial arts/anything) in your application. |
wait wait. before you say this, let's hear what kinda hours brooke will be working first.... is the work F/T? P/T? 40hrs a week? 25 hrs? holidays? |
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Hoser

Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 694 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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In case you're curious I think the starting salary for a nova teacher now is about 210,000 (it might be a little less because now the work week is only 37 hours as compared to 40 hours.) With your allowances and what not it will probably go up to about 275,000 a month. |
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ripslyme

Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 481 Location: Japan
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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I forget what my actual base salary was at NOVA. I was on a 40 lesson/week schedule. With my shift and regional allowances, I was netting about 270,000 - after probation. |
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Brooke Pain
Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 31
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 12:59 am Post subject: |
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Ok, thanks.
Ill be looking at Full Time work. Do you think it would be best for me to go and then line up a job?
Im really confused.
I dont mind working weekends and evenings. But only if the pay equals the effort.
Do you think I can get more than 215,000 on WHV? |
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