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thrifty



Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are all bottom of the barrel.
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teacherdude



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Job offer Reply with quote

nicoletteines wrote:
I received a tentative job offer for the asıan sıde and wıll sıgn a contract wıth them ın the next couple days ıf ı decıde to go through them. what thıngs do ı need to keep ın mınd as we are goıng over the contract, and what should ı know before workıng on the asıan sıde?

If I decıde to not go wıth berlıtz, what other schools are not consıdered "bottom of the barrel"?


Contracts have changed since I left there.

I don't know your level of experience so I can't advise you about salary.

I will tell you that the woman who managed the Asian side last year (is she still there), ; I believe her name was Pelin - was a decent and efficient individual.

The Cadde Bostan area is very beautiful, less crowded than Taksim and more picturesque.

If all you're being offered is around 1500 YTL a month; you can do better.

Regards,
'Dude
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nicoletteines



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
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Location: Seattle, WA, USA

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 7:49 am    Post subject: Over 1500 Reply with quote

Who pays over 1500 YTL and do they also cover housing?

We really need a rent-free apartment, and some of the other places that have talked with us (english center, SDM english, bilge adam) don't offer a flat or rent allowance...
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TeachEnglish



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Berlitz used to offer an apartment or rent allowance. They used to offer about $400 dollars to travel back to your home country after you finish your first year and 2 weeks of paid holiday leave. If you want to get your work papers, they will handle most of the paperwork and you will pay about half. It can be expensive. They used to pay you 1/2 of your travel cost, as long as it was cheap, like by bus, when you have to do a border run. They did not pay for your hotel stay. Whatever is the cheapest, they might pay. Pelin is no longer there. She, like everyone else, got tired of Solmaz's crap. Don't expect any health insurance. They used to have a group policy that you could pay for yourself. I don't know if it or any of the other conditions still exist. If you can work at the Suadiye branch, go cause he is not around there much. Your teaching experience will be less stressful. When he is around, the moral of teachers and staff is low and gloomy. Good luck
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy

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thrifty



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TeachEnglish wrote:

the moral of teachers and staff is low


What are they doing, sleeping with students?
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nutella



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:05 am    Post subject: What should you know before signing a contract....... Reply with quote

...... you need to scroll up a few. All questions are answered. Cool
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, nothing about the lack of morals.
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teacherdude



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 7:44 pm    Post subject: Re: What should you know before signing a contract....... Reply with quote

nutella wrote:
...... you need to scroll up a few. All questions are answered. Cool


Some people aren't interested in scrolling up. Just making useless posts to garner a little attention.

TD
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teacherdude



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thrifty wrote:
TeachEnglish wrote:

the moral of teachers and staff is low


What are they doing, sleeping with students?


I was wondering what happened to 31/Joh Lloyd ... Very Happy

This forum was actually getting a feeling of normality.

TD
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nutella



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:45 pm    Post subject: The Skinny on Berlitz 2 Reply with quote

Here's the final chapter of Berlitz and me. I had given notice and was winding up my time with a wonderful private student who just wanted to learn English. She studied, she utilized her lessons and made it evident that she could use what was learned from her previous level. Everything was good.

Came the time to fill out my time sheet with lessons taught, oral tests given and this time I lost hours for about a two week period because of student vacations and so on. (I am full time so I am guaranteed hours, I was told 20 hours a week but I was to make myself available for up to 40 hours a week and, my first pay and subsequent pays were always based on what I did weekly.) I reminded Berlitz like I was supposed to that I was falling under 20 hours per week and my office manager smiled at me and said, "so, you are full time so you get paid". The first part of the month I was still working a lot of overtime. I was at 50 hours a week. I listed the hours owed on a separate line like I did when I had to list travel time and such. I got the time card in early in case there were questions or problems.

A few days from payday the HR manager, a professional liar by trade, called and asked me what the hours under 'Berlitz contract' were all about. After I responded he said that I wasn't guaranteed 20 hours a week but 80 hours a month. My pay had never been calculated this way up to that point. I said "what are you saying" and he side stepped around the conversation to it wasn't necessary for me to list my hours because they would take care of it. I calculated my pay each month, I always knew what I got and I said "as long as it comes out the same". It didn't and I was shorted a mite over 300 ytl.

What this means is they are a lawless organization that changes the rules, that do not really exist, when they choose, without concern for consequence. The overtime that is worked is not secure. A teacher's list of duties is broken down by week. When it comes to pay, Solmaz does what he wants. If he was simply a control freak, Berlitz would be a nice place to work. They 100 percent fraudulently represented themselves which is what they do to everyone as I found out from another teacher just coming on board. I gave her the skinny on them and wished her luck. Another friend who is starting his own business, an internet language \ translation organization, and who will be leaving them soon himself, was promised a full time contract if he quit his part time time position and just worked for Berlitz. He said ok and they didn't give him a contract.

They owe me over 1000 ytl from the exchange that hasn''t and won't ever be acknowledged. If you choose to work for Berlitz Istanbul I'd keep in close contact with your Embassy. Mr. Green
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TeachEnglish



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, that sounds like Berlitz Nutella... They are known to short pay... and break their own rules.. etc.. It can be a nice place to work.. but when it involves the old wolf... it gets messy.. I suggest discussing it with the HR puppet... and mention that the way they do business would be an interesting topic of conversation for the authorities that issue work permits. Twisted Evil
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TeachEnglish wrote:
mention that the way they do business would be an interesting topic of conversation for the authorities that issue work permits. Twisted Evil


I am sure that your HR person would be really frightened by your threat. That is a good tactic. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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nutella



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:31 am    Post subject: Berlitz Skinny Reply with quote

I had intended to inform a couple of organizations when I was a safe distance from Berlitz. The more the merrier....... Cool
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Bogazicibaby



Joined: 22 May 2003
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Location: Istanbul

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:51 pm    Post subject: Blitz land Reply with quote

I work an entire year for Berlitz and even though my husband knew the owner, he told me to be careful and I ended up getting shafted, just like everyone else that I worked with. The owner is not a nice man and I think h is evil incarnate. He lied to me about paying for going to the states for my work permit. I heard him say several times that the students were stupid and lazy. A very strange way to refer to your bread and butter. His area is finance and never has and never will have anything to do with education. He is a control freak and could have a great place if he would treat his teachers and office workers better.
I heard that some things did get better after I was gone but the only good thing I got out of it all was good friends.
By control freak I mean that he even wants to control who you hang out with on your own time.........ie it should never ever be someone who previously worked there.
I fulfilled my contract but his side was never fulfilled. I was told things that later turned out to be untrue.
I wouldn't want to work there again if I had to. I"m much happier where I am now. No control freaks and I don't have to pass students if they don't do the work nor do I get yelled at for what I do.
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