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vikdk
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where do you find that list Clark and how up to date is it - as a well known helper of FT's I'm sure you'll be willing to share it with us - or is it a state secret 
Looking forward, like so many other FT's here to being able to use this new resource - which will be of immense value to so many of us in our search for jobs  |
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clark.w.griswald
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| Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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where do you find that list Clark and how up to date is it - as a well known helper of FT's I'm sure you'll be willing to share it with us - or is it a state secret
Looking forward, like so many other FT's here to being able to use this new resource - which will be of immense value to so many of us in our search for jobs |
www.buxiban.com
Shame you spend so much time trying to trash the site instead of using it for the resource that it is. |
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vikdk
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| Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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if this list is openly available on buxiban why have you suggested the following-
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| You can pm me the school and province name if you like and I will tell you if it's on the list I have. |
you work in mysterious ways Clark - some scallywags could even go as far as suggesting you were fishing for a new client
By the way when i try to get info on specific schools I get a referral to a registration - why is this Clark, what are you using this registration info for  Are those school registration numbers to found behind this buxiban.com wall |
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clark.w.griswald
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| Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Vikdk you have clearly stated in the past that you have no time for that site so what does it concern you what goes on there? Or are you prone to using that site when you need info that can be found there - but only on the quiet!! 
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if this list is openly available on buxiban why have you suggested the following-
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| You can pm me the school and province name if you like and I will tell you if it's on the list I have. |
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I offered to help out as the information is at my fingertips and I could save the OP the time to search. If you can't work that out then there is clearly something wrong with your logic.
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| you work in mysterious ways Clark - some scallywags could even go as far as suggesting you were fishing for a new client |
First off we don't have clients as users dn't pay anything - the site is free just likes Daves.
Secondly if I were 'fishing for clients' then I would have posted a link to the lists and not offered to help. You were the one who asked for the location of the lists - I just answered your question. There is no pleasing some people, especially people such as yourself who have nothing to offer this forum except for criticisms of others dotted with far too many emoticons. This is why I largely ignore your posts now as there is nothing of any substance in them.
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| By the way when i try to get info on specific schools I get a referral to a registration - why is this Clark, what are you using this registration info for Are those school registration numbers to found behind this buxiban.com wall |
If you don't want to register at that site then you are free not to. If however you want access to view the information within our database and posts comments then you need to register. No different from Daves really so why not raise your concerns about registration here?
PS: You seem to need a little help vikdk as you seem to be having trouble using that site. Actually you don't need to register to get the information about legal schools from that site as it is among the bulk of information that is available for free to anyone who cares to take a look.
Best get your facts straight before you post here vikdk! |
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vikdk
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| Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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thank you clark for this "very detailed" answer - but my query about those registration numbers - do you have the complete list of schools registred to be able employ an FT - where did you get this list - can we as ordinary Joe FT's get a list like this without having to use buxiban .com
By the way here at daves I can obtain info without registering - only when I participate through a user name do I have to go through that process - so buxiban is different |
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stacey28
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| I think it depends on the city. We have changed a tourist visa to a Z visa twice in Shanghai with no problems. When we worked in Hunan though it wasn't possible--our friend had to go to Hong Kong to get his Z visa. I think the visa is the last thing you need to worry about because no matter what they need FTs and they can sort it out otherwise they will have huge fines to pay. You need to be worried about pay and what they don't tell you...don't ever assume anything. If you haven't asked them then they havent lied to you. This is thier mentality. Keep records of all communication. |
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Voldermort
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:03 am Post subject: |
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| vikdk wrote: |
| thank you clark for this "very detailed" answer - but my query about those registration numbers - do you have the complete list of schools registred to be able employ an FT - where did you get this list - can we as ordinary Joe FT's get a list like this without having to use buxiban .com |
I thought I would never see the day when I say something even slightly in old Clarkies favour. There is infact a complete list of all the legal schools in China. It is somewhere on the SAFEA website and available to the general public. Though it is all in Chinese making it difficult for me to find again. I will ask the wife later and post a link. Which I have no doubt would end up on that dreadful buhaoban website. |
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vikdk
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:00 am Post subject: |
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| don't worry voldie - you is doing this in the service of your fellow FT's - just wanted to know where that list was - cheers mate |
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kht27
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:46 am Post subject: Not To Worry |
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Well just to update everyone, I have had two other offers, one from a school in Beijing and another in Singapore.
I am following up on these. Thanks everyone for your feedback amd advice.
Cheers. |
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clark.w.griswald
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:57 am Post subject: |
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| thank you clark for this "very detailed" answer - but my query about those registration numbers - do you have the complete list of schools registred to be able employ an FT |
To my knowledge yes. Online and in English.
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| - where did you get this list - |
From the government.
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| can we as ordinary Joe FT's get a list like this without having to use buxiban .com |
I can't see any reason why not. Be a big boy and contact the government for the Chinese version like we did if you want to ignore that there is an English version online and available free of charge. 
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| By the way here at daves I can obtain info without registering - only when I participate through a user name do I have to go through that process - so buxiban is different |
How so? The bulk of the information on that site is also available without the need to log in or register. If you want to participate in the site or make use of our database then you need to become a registered member. It's up to you and I don't see that it is too much different than here. |
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vikdk
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you clark for your good info - It's good to know my posts have encouraged you to tell us how to find this list
now a further small point -
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| I can't see any reason why not. Be a big boy and contact the government for the Chinese version like we did |
who are we - are you a group of FT's - or do you have some Chinese helpers - I'd just love to find a bit more about the buxiban gang - since unlike Daves where the nice Mr. Sperling tells us all about himself your group seems to be shrouded in secrecy - but then again you better tell me I'm just being a silly ol' sausage, because now you're going to tell us all |
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clark.w.griswald
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Thank you clark for your good info - It's good to know my posts have encouraged you to tell us how to find this list |
Yeah right..whatever vikdk. Somehow I think that most people knew all along that they could contact the government for this list without the need to ask, but if it makes you feel important then knock yourself out!
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| who are we - are you a group of FT's - or do you have some Chinese helpers - I'd just love to find a bit more about the buxiban gang - since unlike Daves where the nice Mr. Sperling tells us all about himself your group seems to be shrouded in secrecy |
I don't see a shroud of secrecy. Just because we don't put our photos on the site?! If you are really interested then IU suggest you have a look at the site as this is explained on the 'About Us' page of that site.
Vikdk you really have to start doing some independant research rather than relying upon others to spoonfeed you.
Anyway I am sure that you will follow this post up with your usual two or three line posts covered in emoticons! |
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vikdk
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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an "about us" page Clarkie - is that like those 4 paragraphs on your home page under the title buxiban.com - not much there to tell me who "we" are, infact nothing- ohhh well poor ol' me I'll just have to carry on scratching me head and wondering is this an FT friendly site or just another link in the China FT live meat trade called packing 'em in quickly and cheaply
By the way Clark why the sudden influx of postings - you also working with an eye to that september start of term deadline |
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clark.w.griswald
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| not much there to tell me who "we" are, infact nothing- ohhh well poor ol' me I'll just have to carry on scratching me head and wondering is this an FT friendly site or just another link in the China FT live meat trade called packing 'em in quickly and cheaply |
You asked for information about who is behind that site so I pointed you to that information.
You asked for information about where to find a list of legal schools and I pointed you that information.
Yet you still whinge and whine! I think that you really need to get yourself a hobby vikdk as you seem to really waste a lot of time on this forum.
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| By the way Clark why the sudden influx of postings - you also working with an eye to that september start of term deadline |
Firstly, what influx of postings. You are the one who posts in nearly every thread here while I only participate in a handful that I have information about. There is nothing sudden about my posting here either as I have been posting here for over four years now and well before I was involved with that other site.
You have never explained what I have to gain by people visting that site. It is a free site. I don't get paid for my involvement with that site. So it does not really interest me how many people do or don't visit the site. I am involved with the site because I believe that it is a good resource and I refer to it from time to time when it is relevant to do so. If you don;t like that site then feel free not to use it or better still start your own site and show us how vikdk would do things! |
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vikdk
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Additionally, we do accept paid advertisements on our site, including advertisements from schools, agents, and recruiters who want to promote their services to the foreign teaching community here in China |
quote found on buxiban http://www.buxiban.com/teachCN04.asp#a22
Now when I read this on buxiban I kind of get the idea that money is involved in this site. I can also understand the registration thing better, because theoreticaly you can use this data to advertise the size of your user base to would be advertisers - maybe fortunes arn't being made but come on Clark a wee bit of cash is involved here and there!!!!
By the way how much did EF pay for their banner |
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