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Cobra



Joined: 28 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew, sorry if I seemed combative. That was certainly not my intent.

I was aware of an expiramental program in southern China like the one you mention, but I was not aware that it had spread to Shanghai or that it was now official.

Your comment sent me back to read my papers.

I have not had a new "Z" visa for several years. They just keep renewing or re-issuing my temporary residence permit because I do not leave the China mainland. In the back of the temporary residence permit it says that it will be turned in at the border when I leave and it will be cancelled there at the border.

My expert's certificate says that it must be returned to the issuing authority before I leave China. Previously that has meant the employer.

But things are always changing in China.
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Roger



Joined: 19 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...and further to Minhang's post:
i am absobloodylootely surprised to learn I need an EXIT PERMIT! Never needed it in years that I have spent on the mainland.

Let's recap here:
To work legally, you need
- a Work visa ('Z' prefix, multiple or single), issued either by a CHinese
embassy or consulate upon presentation of an invite,
or issued by the local PSB upon presentation of a medical report
declaring you fit for your job (in essence, HIV-free);
- in addition, your employer must obtain, at extra cost, your Foreign
Expert booklet (which enables you to convert RMB into foreign
currency); a work permit and a residence permit. The latter is
quite important as China 'could lose face if any harm came your
way' (more or less what a cop told me on why you must be
registered with the PSB and your home must be approved);

Quitting your job:
- You absolutely need a release letter, so you can apply for other
work elsewhere. The PSB simply want to run a check on
you. The new employer must apply for a new visa.
- Upon completion of your stint, you must return all your docs to
your employer who must return them to the authorities.

Now I hope that crossing the border to Hong Kong tomorrow on the last day of my current visa will not produce any unpredicted event...
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arioch36



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
Posts: 3589

PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yo Cobra, combative and dead wrong. My first two years I used one visa, multiple entries, and I teach in Henan, so I don't think multiple entries is experimental. Henan is not exactlyknown as a leading innovator, don't ya know!

I'm back in the US now, left Shanghai a couple of weeks ago. I had to show my visa, which they stamped (it was one entry), and I had to show my green foreign residence permit. Years ago I don't think they always took the residence permit when you left the country (though that is what the residence permit says in English and Chinese) It appears they are getting more on top of such things.

Never heard of an exit permit. Have no idea what it is, who would give it, what you would use it for. Where did you get this? Who gave it to you? What year?
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