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SeasonedVet



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember one post where a guy was asking if he can find a job teaching English in Jamaica, and the response from one poster was that it might not be so easy and the reason given was that jamaicans speak English and in fact they seem to have preserved some vestiges of Shakespeareian English.
I don't know if that reply was a little exaggeration but the point is that these things serve to inform us.
So I have met English teachers here in Japan who hail from Jamaica.

Don't mean to belabor this point or this post though.

Thanks for all the comments so far.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason that people from the US/UK/Canada/Australia/N. Zealand are employed over native speakers from other countries has nothing to do with linguistic ability and everything to do with racist hiring policies.

Eikaiwa don't sell language classes, the classes are almost an irrelevance. They sell the opportunity to hang out and meet Westerners.

They sell cultural stereotypes far more than language education.

English is the national language of Nigeria, but you won't see any eikaiwa recruitment offices in Lagos!
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Like a Rolling Stone



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

womblingfree wrote:
The reason that people from the US/UK/Canada/Australia/N. Zealand are employed over native speakers from other countries has nothing to do with linguistic ability and everything to do with racist hiring policies.



This old chestnut! rubbish! rubbish! not racist just the most Japanese don"t know if a South AFRICAN is able to speak English same as most NATIVE English speakers don't know that many Maltesers are native English speakers. Cool Everyone says Japanese are racist and never think that opinion is itself racsist.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like a Rolling Stone wrote:
womblingfree wrote:
The reason that people from the US/UK/Canada/Australia/N. Zealand are employed over native speakers from other countries has nothing to do with linguistic ability and everything to do with racist hiring policies.



This old chestnut! rubbish! rubbish! not racist just the most Japanese don"t know if a South AFRICAN is able to speak English same as most NATIVE English speakers don't know that many Maltesers are native English speakers. Cool Everyone says Japanese are racist and never think that opinion is itself racsist.

You misunderstand old fruity.

It's not that Japanese are racist, it's the hiring policies of global ELT schools that are racist.

It wouldn't make any difference to a students education if a teacher was speaking in a Maltese, Welsh, New York, Louisiana, Nigerian, South African, Kiwi, Scottish, etc, accent.

Saying that all English teachers must be from one of 5 native speaking countries is like say all math teachers should be German, bald with curly tufts at the sides, wear kipper ties and horn rim glasses.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

womblingfree wrote:
Like a Rolling Stone wrote:
womblingfree wrote:
The reason that people from the US/UK/Canada/Australia/N. Zealand are employed over native speakers from other countries has nothing to do with linguistic ability and everything to do with racist hiring policies.



This old chestnut! rubbish! rubbish! not racist just the most Japanese don"t know if a South AFRICAN is able to speak English same as most NATIVE English speakers don't know that many Maltesers are native English speakers. Cool Everyone says Japanese are racist and never think that opinion is itself racsist.

You misunderstand old fruity.

It's not that Japanese are racist, it's the hiring policies of global ELT schools that are racist.

It wouldn't make any difference to a students education if a teacher was speaking in a Maltese, Welsh, New York, Louisiana, Nigerian, South African, Kiwi, Scottish, etc, accent.


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