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What country to teach in for a single mom?
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Ganbei



Joined: 23 Aug 2006
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Location: Hubei Province

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi ya-I'm working at a Middle school in China and my son (8 1/2) is attending the attached primary school.

He's in grade 1, learning Chinese.After school I plan to homeschool with Aust. curriculum and the net.

It's busy and a tad disorganised but,when it settles things should be fine.
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gypsywoman



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:03 pm    Post subject: single mum Reply with quote

I'm a single mum as well and know where you are coming from.
Just to throw one more idea into pot for you, have you considered schooling the child yourself? At young ages, its not so hard to do, there is also distance ed, which I have done with my kids on occasions over the years.
It doesn't harm their education and you can always find ways to socialise them with other kids. It takes the pressure off you as a mum and its easier for the child to learn as the lessons plans are suited to the childs ability.
You will still need a nanny, but its easier than paying out for expensive International schools, which in my opinion are never worth the money.
(My kids have been in several over the years and hugely expensive ones)
My kids are now in upper highschool and are great students, largely I think, due to the fact they are more worldly having traveled. They are have less trouble with homework and study, as they are used to working alone.
Just an idea! Good luck
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yavannah



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:12 pm    Post subject: Re: single mum Reply with quote

How do you get into distance ESL? I had considered that, but so far the only posting for that I've seen wanted ppl w/ 5+ years of teaching experience.

gypsywoman wrote:
I'm a single mum as well and know where you are coming from.
Just to throw one more idea into pot for you, have you considered schooling the child yourself? At young ages, its not so hard to do, there is also distance ed, which I have done with my kids on occasions over the years.
It doesn't harm their education and you can always find ways to socialise them with other kids. It takes the pressure off you as a mum and its easier for the child to learn as the lessons plans are suited to the childs ability.
You will still need a nanny, but its easier than paying out for expensive International schools, which in my opinion are never worth the money.
(My kids have been in several over the years and hugely expensive ones)
My kids are now in upper highschool and are great students, largely I think, due to the fact they are more worldly having traveled. They are have less trouble with homework and study, as they are used to working alone.
Just an idea! Good luck
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gypsywoman



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:21 pm    Post subject: single mum Reply with quote

Hi,
I meant distance education for your child, rather than sending them to a school. It would make things simpler.
Cheers
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Vanica



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ganbei wrote:
Hi ya-I'm working at a Middle school in China and my son (8 1/2) is attending the attached primary school.

He's in grade 1, learning Chinese.After school I plan to homeschool with Aust. curriculum and the net.

It's busy and a tad disorganised but,when it settles things should be fine.


What is Hubei province like? Are you in a city or small town?
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mrsrhu



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:12 pm    Post subject: Re: single mum Reply with quote

gypsywoman wrote:
Hi,
I meant distance education for your child, rather than sending them to a school. It would make things simpler.
Cheers


Many web-based "cyberschools" exist for elementary through high school. A Google search will turn up plenty. Consider how much and what kind of supervision/accountability you want. Some programs let the family personalize the learning activities, others have a more standardized curriculum. My kids (ages 10 & 11) are in a program called "Connections Academy" which is a private company that contracts with state school districts (in the US), so the program is free to anyone who can prove residency in a participating state. They are required to meet state standards, including attendance and testing, which is more oversight than I would prefer, but it is free. Private school options abound, with many variations of focus, level of structure, and teaching methods. Homeschooling without a structured curriculum is also an alternative, one that my elder son and I used successfully for many years. The homeschooling forum at www.mothering.com is a good place to participate in discussions of all types of homeschooling, from highly structured to radically unstructured.

I lived in the US, Costa Rica, Mexico, Thailand, Jamaica and France while ElderSon (now 25) was growing up. I feel he learned at least as much from our travels as from any school. He generally attended local public schools for the language and cultural connections, but I always felt academics were my responsibility. My young ones have lived in the US, Mexico and Costa Rica, and I plan to live abroad with them in the next few years (family obligations keep us planted right now).

Would any single parents like to discuss expat life with kids - perhaps on a new thread? I have questions about how things may have changed in the current political climate, and would love to hear more stories of families' experiences in other countries, as I have a couple years to make up my mind where to go next.
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Vanica



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mrsrhu, which country did you like the best with your son? I was in Thailand and Brazil for extended periods, before my daughter was born, and I was a bit on the wild side so I have absolutely no idea what either would be like for her and me now. My little one has delays but there are no services for her here in Quebec, she's already four and zero -- and I really think air quality and fresh food would help her so much more. Have any of you seen the satellite photos of global air quality? (ESA European Space Agency Envisat, I don't have the link because I downloaded it.) The only place worse than Eastern North America is ... Eastern China!
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Ganbei



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Vanica

We're in a small town (although non stop activity) about 3hr from Wuhan.

Everything we need is here and if not the bus to Wuhan is just down the road.

We landed in Shanghai and I was relieved to get out of the chaos and isolation I felt there.

My son has heaps of friends and he's happy.That's the main thing for me.
The school lets him do his English homework in class-so,no drama.
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DainaJ



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:39 pm    Post subject: Re: single mum Reply with quote

[quote="mrsrhu"]
gypsywoman wrote:

Would any single parents like to discuss expat life with kids - perhaps on a new thread? I have questions about how things may have changed in the current political climate, and would love to hear more stories of families' experiences in other countries, as I have a couple years to make up my mind where to go next.


Me, too!! I'd love to join in on a discussion like that, if you don't mind that I'm not a single mom. We plan to be expats in a couple of years when my DH finishes his teaching degree. I've been on here researching various countries and options, but am not finding a lot anywhere about schooling our kids (girls who will probably be in 3rd grade and kinderg. when we go). DH would prefer that they go to public school.

Please post a link to the thread here when you start it.

Thanks!
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Vanica



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also prefer that my child go to local schools (and I am really shocked by the pricetag of international schooling -- some 10.000usd a year in Vientiane, for example). Besides, my daughter doesn`t speak English anyhow. But the whole point is to expose my daughter to another language and culture.
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DainaJ



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vanica, you might want to look into international schools anyway. The benefits appear to be pretty good from what I have researched. You would have the qualifications, I think, and most of them offer free tuition for one dependent per teacher. Also, most of the ones I have looked at are at least bilingual (I am looking at English/Spanish, but there must be French bilingual schools, too). That said, however, we are ourselves weighing the issue of the expensive tuition (2 kids, but only one would potentially be paid for). To be honest, another issue is sending my kids into a very upper crust-type atmosphere in a poorer country and the implications of that.

Yavannah, my husband taught in Germany with a BA in English and a CELTA in the late 1990s, but the immigration requirements have now been tightened so as to make working in Europe pretty much impossible for non-EU passport holders. What about Eastern Europe (non-EU states) or Asia (the China option sounds doable from the above posts)? I guess international schools wouldn't be an option yet without a master's and experience. Good luck and let us know how things shape up.
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Vanica



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DainaJ wrote:
To be honest, another issue is sending my kids into a very upper crust-type atmosphere in a poorer country and the implications of that.


I enroled my daughter in a very expensive, very exclusive English-language preschool in Quebec for a brief period simply because there are two year waiting lists here for daycare and an acquaintance gave me her spot on the first day of the semester. I thought, Wow, I never expected my daughter to be accepted here -- and you know what, she wasn't!!! I never heard the end of our being foreigners. On the other end, being exclusive probably meant they tried to make everyone feel they weren`t good enough, but maybe other parents ate that up Wink

Now my daughter goes to a local, French language daycare and she`s one of the bunch. It is child-centered instead of being all about impressing other adults.

On the other hand, inferior facilities can be dangerous, lack of teachers, ignorance ... I can see both sides.

DainaJ, for an international school application, does your teaching certification need to be current? I stopped teaching in the US a few years ago.
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DainaJ



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, there are a lot of issues to hash through, and the conditions are probably different in each place. Lots to think about!

I am not sure. Maybe for American schools they do? I get mixed information just looking up various international schools on the Web. I probably should just write to each one. Actually, my DH is the teacher - I would be along for the ride continuing with my translation business. He will probably apply to a bunch of places and we'll sort it all out when he actually gets offers.

I find the option of public schools/homeschooling intriguing. Mrsrhu - could you elaborate on your kids' experiences?
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Vanica



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am an ESL teacher and also a translator/interpreter (French, English, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, German, Yugoslavian languages.) Which languages are you translating?
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vanica wrote:
I also prefer that my child go to local schools...
...But the whole point is to expose my daughter to another language and culture.


While I can totally understand that point. One thing to think about is if as a single working mother you will have the time and energy to teach your daughter the rest of the stuff you want her to learn (besides the local language and culture.) For example, sending children to local primary schools in my small Mexican city, means that there is a really good chance they won't learn any math, science, world history, or really anything other than Spanish and the cultural stuff they will pick up from their classmates.
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