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NathanRahl
Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 509
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Actualyl not thats not what I was talking about, but your not looking to have a discussion, your looking to exalt yourself and preach a bit. making the best out of a bad situation is fine, when you have no choice in the matter that is. You misuinterpret simple sayings to suit your own very limited ideas. I don't recdal every saying not to make the best out of any situation, thats the duh factor, and so obvious as to be stupid to point out. Read all I have written, and take a class in how to listen and reason. To do something means just that, do something, like what I have said, to stop ignoring the problem, and just accepting it. I have already said what to do, don't ignore it. You are quite apathetic, and a liberal pin head to boot, which is a real shame. *Yawn* your not even worth talking to. You can PM me if you like, but I am afraid my opinion of you is too low now to continue a public dialogue, ignore time for you, good bye. |
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Sinobear

Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 1269 Location: Purgatory
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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Nathan, my boy, you are British, a.ka. British Bulldog, aren't you? C'mon, admit it!
c Herz! |
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SueH
Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Posts: 1022 Location: Northern Italy
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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Nathan, my boy, you are British, a.ka. British Bulldog, aren't you? C'mon, admit it!
c Herz! |
Gawd, he's not still around, is he? Definitely not British, whoever he was. |
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Henry_Cowell

Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 3352 Location: Berkeley
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Seems like Robert, the original poster (who hasn't returned to this thread), should really rename his topic:
Some experiences of one teacher in one Chinese city |
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philbags
Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 149 Location: 1962-69
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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British? good lord, he's certainly not one of ours! thought the bally old chap was one of your boys.
Still, I had to sympathise with the poor blighter to some degree, after all nobody wants a good rogering on a foreign field now, do they?
Looks like a might be seeing you in a week or two, tally ho! |
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roadwalker

Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 1750 Location: Ch
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:15 am Post subject: |
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Where are the true facts I was promised? Ok, I bit. An FT who has a year and a half in China, possibly in one city only, is an Old China Hand who can give you the straight dope on a country of 1.3 billion people? I only did a year (may come back)so I won't go beyond calling myself an Expert of all things Chinese.
Don't get me wrong, I haven't lived anywhere that I didn't whine about. It is good exercise. But realize how ignorant it sounds to start making up statistics about 85% of Chinese people are this or that, or that Wenzhou is the worst. China is huge. There might be a place for you.
I hate deceiving titles: how about "My experience in Wenzhou, a Cautionary Tale? As I used to tell my writing students, write about what you know. |
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cj750

Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 3081 Location: Beijing
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:17 am Post subject: |
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| To do something means just that, do something, like what I have said, to stop ignoring the problem, and just accepting it. I have already said what to do, don't ignore it. You are quite apathetic, and a liberal pin head |
Nathan.....NathanRahl, you certainly are doing something about it..but you got your "wires" crossed cuz...to do something means to adapt your self to your work environment..and to accomplished the goal...not to self satisfy or to force change..you would do well to learn to set examples while holding a line as to what an employee is willing to do..I would guess from your post that you have had less than a successful time at dealing with this cultural and now it is time to lash out at any person who gives you advice or makes a comment that deter you away from self pity and the helplessness you may feel her at the hands of a layer of society
that has mistreated you. It is time to take responsibility for your own direction and time to stand on your own..not to enlist the help, in your ever so vague way, of those who have been stronger than you could be...and to Identify me as a liberal .... well that is just plane stupid and uninformed... |
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englishgibson
Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 4345
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:37 am Post subject: |
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This thread should deffinitely be renamed
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| To do something means just that, do something, like what I have said, to stop ignoring the problem, and just accepting it. I have already said what to do, don't ignore it. You are quite apathetic, and a liberal pin head |
Nathan.....NathanRahl, you certainly are doing something about it..but you got your "wires" crossed cuz...to do something means to adapt your self to your work environment..... |
And you have a great experience there
Cheers and beers  |
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cj750

Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 3081 Location: Beijing
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:48 am Post subject: |
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| Well English Gibberish..I haven't been fired from EF...that is...yet... but there is always a chance..if I follow your advice... |
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MITCH

Joined: 18 Aug 2006 Posts: 58 Location: China
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:15 am Post subject: |
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Robert,
I can relate to what you have said.
I have been disillusioned many a time.
After negative events, i have even left China for periods.
But, i continue to return, because of the possibilities..., because of the interesting things i can do here. I come from arguably the best city in the world, but i prefer to live in China. We can live heaven in hell or hell in heaven.
Don't give up on your dream. Is your 5 years up yet? You still have time, be proactive, go and work for a university, meet some babes.
If i was to give you the answer, then i would say get another job in a nice clean city in China. Make some new friends, be sincere, and you will attract like minded nice people.
Work a day and weekend job and save heaps. Hard work takes your mind off your problems, and as the bank account grows so does your confidence.
This is my experience. |
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englishgibson
Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 4345
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:10 am Post subject: |
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My bank account doesn't seem to grow much, Mitch .... but i sure've met some babes .... in my case 5 years coming up soooon
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| Well English Gibberish..I haven't been fired from EF...that is...yet... but there is always a chance..if I follow your advice... |
...you don't disappoint, do ya?
You actually sound like you've never been to China and been posting from a basement of some shabby house on the western coast of California ....and in a hope that you'll become an actor one day
You keep it coming....there are loads of tissues behin'cha
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cj750

Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 3081 Location: Beijing
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:10 am Post subject: |
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You actually sound like you've never been to China and been posting from a basement of some shabby house on the western coast of California ....and in a hope that you'll become an actor one day
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Well English, lil brother..I am right here in Beijing with an apartment around Lido...if you care to meet sometime..and you can see a lot of pic..of me and others involved with motorcycles in their natural habitat...check
www.changjiangunlimited.com
and although I live in a rooftop apartment, you are right about the shabby house..but when in China ..live as the Chinese
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| You keep it coming....there are loads of tissues behin'cha |
suspose I am lucky it is not yu behin'me.... |
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TEAM_PAPUA

Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 1679 Location: HOLE
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:38 am Post subject: * |
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I am sure that there isn't a gun pointing at your head; leave if you hate it so much.
I did. |
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7969

Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 5782 Location: Coastal Guangdong
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:37 am Post subject: |
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| I have to agree with Shan Shan I am afraid. It is very easy to paint a rosy picture when you are one of the few who has found some happiness and a good job here. The reality though is that most who come here do not have that final good outcome. |
i'm on my fourth job in china now. all four have been at different levels of satisfactory (albeit with minor problems along the way). looks like i scooped up the good luck that three other teachers didnt get. nathan, you cant state something to be true if you cant prove it. and what you claim up above is impossible to prove. |
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Calories
Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 361 Location: Chinese Food Hell
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:47 am Post subject: |
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| It's a fact that 3 out of 4 people posting statistics on the internet are very talented and have developed a skill that allows them to type with their bumholes. |
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