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tekirdag · Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Posts: 505

The Turks I know pretty much spit at the president's name. I think it is safe to say he isn't very popular in some circles these days.

misterkodak · Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:00 am Post subject:

I really don't get into politics or religion either way. It's a safe way to avoid unnecessary problems. My private views are just that.. private. If people want to do things like that they should do them AT HOME. These are the kind of yabanci who would get ripped off at Wal-Mart. .
This incident reminds me of an incident that happened a few years back in b-koy where a nice young yabanci lad blasted ouf of his mind on beer started talking trash about Islam and Turkey... in the middle of Ramazan of all times. The outcome was predictable.. several stitches and a black eye later..

bigbadsuzie · Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:20 am Post subject:

So,nothing serious then ! Lucky he wasn't a Leeds supporter.

Baba Alex · Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 2411

misterkodak · Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:17 am Post subject:

All I'm saying is that people should use their brains before they act. I never said that I was afraid to make political statements or whatever.There is a time and a place for everything. This isn't my country.. I don't make the laws, but I do choose to live here. Therefore, I have to abide by the laws, whether I like them or not. If I don't like the laws, I can always leave. The same applies to other yabanci. Being a foreigner or being stupid is no excuse.
People who do stuff like this without contemplating the consequences are so naieve that they'd be ripped off at walmarts or any other retail outlet. I'm surprised they didn't hold him longer.. just to make a point. It hasn't been that long ago (20 years ago or so) that people used to "disappear".

Baba Alex · Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 2411

tekirdag · Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Posts: 505

amen!

dmb · Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397

and perhaps the whole ideal has damaged the Turkish government's international reputation
so has this
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5380986.stm

tararu · Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 494

Michael was released and then secretly rearrested. Basically, he was told that he was free to go, and then they put him in a van and drove him over to the prison over in Zeytinburnu. He asked where they were taking him and he was told to shut up. Finally, they arrived and Michael didn't know what to do, so when one of the police got out to go and talk to the guards at the Zeytinburnu prison, Michael decided to make a run for it. He jumped out of the van and had a policeman running after him and shouting. He made it about three streets before the policeman fired a shot into the air. He was dragged back to the prison where he was slapped around a bit. For the next week, he watched the guards regulary beat illegal immigrants. The women there prostitute themselves to guards for soap. Nice place.

tararu · Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 494

After. They also threatened to burn out his eyes and then kill him. A nice bunch all round really.

Sheikh Inal Ovar · Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 1208 Location: Melo Drama School

I haven't seen this piece of 'art' but the idea is certainly not an original one ...

... following the Oscar Wilde line of argument that there is no moral or immoral book, only a well or badly written one, he was lucky he didn't get thrown off the bridge ...

There are many ex-pats who, by regurgitating what are trited ideas in their native country as new ideas in their new country, try to impress locals with their 'artistic' and 'creative' talents ..

bigbadsuzie · Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:50 am Post subject:

So were those gentlemen from that difficult to spell and pronounce eastern Turkish town breaking the law by sending a letter .How did the Turkish authorities find out about that letter ?Do we care ?

tekirdag · Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Posts: 505

I think the whole thing about the letter is rediculous. It is only a letter. Freedom of speech? What's that?

tararu · Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 494

Sheihk, I am really not sure what you mean when you say original art. The medium with which Michael works is certainly not a new one, and the Stuckism movement has been around for a while. Using art as a means to portray ones political leanings is as old as the hills.
Whether a work of art is good or bad is entirely up to the beholder. As you well know, Impressionism got its name because art critics at the time believed that the pieces in the new movement were bad impressions of what good or high art should be.

Therefore, l was just wondering what you're on about.

Sheikh Inal Ovar · Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 1208 Location: Melo Drama School

Actually, I said the idea was not an original one ...

Somewhere along the way was it not mentioned that the Prime Minister's head was stuck onto a body of a dog that was tethered to a leash held by the President of the US of A ...

It's not rocket science you know ...