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How to look like a local! Can i do it?
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Ecrivain



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeySaid wrote:
As for clothing and shoes go... if you have big feet... good luck. I wear a US 13 and don't often find the shoes I like in Mexico to be available in a size that fits me.


I'm 6'3 and wear a size 13 too. I guess I'm going to be SOL in Costa Rica, aye? Ah well, shoes are overrated.
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RyanS



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:56 pm    Post subject: Re: How to look like a local! Can i do it? Reply with quote

james_tesol wrote:
Teaching in Asia as a 195cm/ 6ft 6' pasty white Brit with brown hair and brown eyes its impossible to blend in with the locals due to obvious physical differences. However, when my current contract finishes I'm looking to move to South America although as to where i'm not sure.

Now i'm not saying one should ever try to change their identity due to external pressures, but in some circumstances it seems a good idea to blend in wherever possible. When in Rome ......

My question for you guys living in S.A. is this...Have you ever altered your clothes, accessories, skin tan, facial hair etc ... in order to blend in? If so how did you do it and did it have any benefits? Should i bother to try to look a little Latino-like or just say what the hell!?

THis may seem a weird topic and for that i am sorry!

Cheers!


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ghost



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:25 pm    Post subject: the long and short of it Reply with quote

Depends where you head for in S.A.

In some countries....with large indigenous populations (Ecuador, Bolivia, Peru) you will stand out much more....but in others you will stand out much less (Argentina, Chile, Brazil, Uruguay)....these last countries having a lot (or most) of people of Euro. (Italy and Spain) descent....(in Brazil this applies to the southern places.....not the middle and north)

When ghost travelled to Tumaco, Colombia, the locals there thought it was a Colombian from Pasto....which is an area with a sizeable pop. of people of Spanish-Euro. descent...and rather pale in complexion.....even though ghost measures 6.2/1.88....

The same thing in Brazil...despite being tall, ghost passed unnoticed in most Brazilian towns and cities.....and the street kids sometimes asked one if one were a Portuguese from Angola!

So, you will stand out in some locales, and blend in others.....the selection process is up to you.....

And yes, there are some tall Argentinians over 6ft in height, although 6.6 is definetely at the extreme upper end of the scale, but not ultra unusual.

ghost (6.2/163, 1.88/73kilos)
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Mattaro



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:42 pm    Post subject: Tips to blend in Reply with quote

Having light coloured hair and white skin in Quito, Ecuador is the obvious sign you are a foreigner. But obviously does not apply to everyone as there are also Ecuadorians of this description. The other is your accent or ability to speak Spanish.

People that want to take advantage of ignorant non locals look for obvious signs that speak �tourist�. First they check out your shoes - hiking boots dead giveaway, any type of uncovered shoes, shorts, cargo pants with many pockets, money belt, overpriced hikers type jackets/sweaters, daypacks (especially worn on the front), woven souvenir shoulder bag you bought in Otavalo, and a guidebooks in your hand. And in all seriousness, the most obvious way to spot a female tourist is to see if their jeans are sagging around the butt! (local women wear their jeans super tight).

My tips to minimise looking like a tourist is to carry photocopies of your guidebook map, not carry around a daypack in the city if it is not essential, don�t wear hiking boots, and if you are a woman wear tight jeans! Much better if you are teaching and have nice work clothes - you will be less of a target as people assume you live here.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Tips to blend in Reply with quote

Mattaro wrote:


People that want to take advantage of ignorant non locals look for obvious signs that speak �tourist�. First they check out your shoes - hiking boots dead giveaway, any type of uncovered shoes, shorts, cargo pants with many pockets, money belt, overpriced hikers type jackets/sweaters, daypacks (especially worn on the front), woven souvenir shoulder bag you bought in Otavalo, and a guidebooks in your hand. And in all seriousness, the most obvious way to spot a female tourist is to see if their jeans are sagging around the butt! (local women wear their jeans super tight).

My tips to minimise looking like a tourist is to carry photocopies of your guidebook map, not carry around a daypack in the city if it is not essential, don�t wear hiking boots, and if you are a woman wear tight jeans! Much better if you are teaching and have nice work clothes - you will be less of a target as people assume you live here.


I completely agree, I-m amazed at how many tourists dress the same here as they would at home. that being said, right now I_m visiting my parents which would explain the strange typos and my mom says that all my clothes are too tight. BUt at home in Peru my husband says that many of them are too loose and that I should fill them out a bit more.
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Tips to blend in Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
I completely agree, I-m amazed at how many tourists dress the same here as they would at home.


On that note. Last Summer, before the situation in Oaxaca heated up, I was in the capital city and I saw a group of US college students. There were about 30 of them, standing in the street in front of Santo Domingo and every single one of them had those baggy high water pants on. Different colors, some demin, some not, but I was amazed that 100% of them were wearing that same style. I looked around and none of the young Mexican women were wearing those.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised to see people here thinking there is something negative about the way people dress as tourists. How else are you supposed to dress if you are tourist? You dress comfortably and for the climate you expect to experience, and as a foreigner, that certainly isn't going to be as locals dress. Who cares if you stand out? No one is going to be fooled into thinking you are Peruvian if you are an American woman that decides to scale Machu Picchu in a skin tight pair of jeans...they'll just think you're a fool and your travel companions will think the same.

It's as if there is some shame in being a tourist? Or being different? I thought we were a much more tolerant bunch than that...overall, I think it silly to think that clothing is what marks a tourist. If you are worried about being taken advantage of, then the problem is far more one of ignorance and education than simply trying to blend into the Savannah.
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it has more to do with being an easy mark. Especially in the Andean countries where crime against tourists is more prevalent.
But you are right guy. Tourists should to dress comfortably and sensibly.
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Mattaro



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good coment Guy,
Its easy for people to live in SA to have a laugh at the tourists expense but I admit I had the same gear, made mistakes, and stood out as a target when I arrived. But I think it is legitimate to question the whole traveller adventure wear product industry, too much money is spend on clothing and gear that really isnt necessary.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But I think it is legitimate to question the whole traveller adventure wear product industry, too much money is spend on clothing and gear that really isnt necessary.


That much is true enough...it took me only one trip thumbing across Canada to realize that I'd packed and dressed way too much. I probably could've done the same trip wearing a three piece suit and it would've come out the same. I was fortunate in that the Albertans didn't take too much advantage of me, but I was well aware of their wily ways. Wink

Seriously though, if we are talking about tourists, there's no way to blend in at all, so why try? Just be you. For those of us living abroad, ok, it's different, particularly when working abroad, but even then, I could give a rat's tush on what the average person thinks of me based on what I wear. Investing in a good travel guide and/or learning the local tricks is both more important and much more fun too.
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Katm



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I managed to pass as Ecuadorian on occasion. Mostly when I was with Ecuadorian friends and kept my mouth shut. Apart from that, despite black hair, I was always 'gringa' or the rather more unusual argument two Ecuadorians had over whether I was Swiss or Malaysian! No idea where they got that from.
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gungediana



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm male, 5'7, slight with dark hair so I can fit in pretty well, From behind I probably look like a local in South America. But I have fair skin and blue eyes, so up close most of them realise I'm non-native.

I reiterate what naturegirl and others have said about clothes. Not wearing touristy clothes and in general not calling attention to yourself really helps with personal safety.
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Tips to blend in Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
Mattaro wrote:


People that want to take advantage of ignorant non locals look for obvious signs that speak �tourist�. First they check out your shoes - hiking boots dead giveaway, any type of uncovered shoes, shorts, cargo pants with many pockets, money belt, overpriced hikers type jackets/sweaters, daypacks (especially worn on the front), woven souvenir shoulder bag you bought in Otavalo, and a guidebooks in your hand. And in all seriousness, the most obvious way to spot a female tourist is to see if their jeans are sagging around the butt! (local women wear their jeans super tight).

My tips to minimise looking like a tourist is to carry photocopies of your guidebook map, not carry around a daypack in the city if it is not essential, don�t wear hiking boots, and if you are a woman wear tight jeans! Much better if you are teaching and have nice work clothes - you will be less of a target as people assume you live here.


I completely agree, I-m amazed at how many tourists dress the same here as they would at home. that being said, right now I_m visiting my parents which would explain the strange typos and my mom says that all my clothes are too tight. BUt at home in Peru my husband says that many of them are too loose and that I should fill them out a bit more.


Both of these posters are right. Wearing tourist type clothes, boonie-hats, baggy pants, sandals, boots, etc are all dead give aways. Every time I see a tourist walking around with a giant copy of LP I just Laughing Exclamation

In Mexico City I manage to blend in a bit. I usually wear button down shirts, khaki slacks, matching leather belt and shoes (polish them!), and I try to look nothing like a tourist. I also have dark brown hair and brown eyes which helps. I'm 6'2" which makes me stand out but I try to pass as a "white" Mexican (except when I open my mouth and start talking!).

Mexican men almost never have facial hair and wear their hair short. Mexican women rarely wear skirts (Usually when they do they have an ugly face and they want to draw attention to their better parts Shocked ).
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Ernie Cuba



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:57 am    Post subject: Re: the long and short of it Reply with quote

ghost wrote:
When ghost travelled to Tumaco, Colombia,


Ghost, why do you speak about yourself in the third-person? I've met a few people who do that, always weirdos with wildly inflated egos.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as a 195cm/ 6ft 6' pasty white Brit with brown hair and brown eyes
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no way to change that situation.
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