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007
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| Cleopatra wrote: |
| ..I'm not at all convinced that wanting to maximise one's profits by synchronising one's working week with that of 'the west' neccessarily makes one a 'liberal'. |
The word 'Liberal' means different things to different people.
May be the Saudi liberals want to maximize their economic and political profits, more than 'maximizing' or 'westernizing' their way of life. |
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ALPH
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| it does me heart good to watch you girls have a good old fashioned chinwag about the state of affairs out there. I used to think nobody cared. Let's have some more threads like this one please |
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Van Norden
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:46 am Post subject: |
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| The term 'liberal' has replaced that dirty 'c' word we don't use anymore. |
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007
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Van Norden wrote: |
| The term 'liberal' has replaced that dirty 'c' word we don't use anymore. |
Which dirty 'c' word?
Do you mean:
"Conservative"
"Neo-Conservative"
"Conspiracy"
" Contradictory"
"Conflict"
'Confused"
"Conceal"
"Contribution" |
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scot47
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:09 am Post subject: |
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| 'Liberals', 'neo-liberals'. 'modernisers'. You call them that if you want. To me they are just the running dogs of Imperialism. |
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Cleopatra
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:27 am Post subject: |
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| it does me heart good to watch you girls have a good old fashioned chinwag about the state of affairs out there. I used to think nobody cared. Let's have some more threads like this one please |
Please direct your concerns towards the mods.
As you may have noticed, they have a nasty habit of zapping any thread the minute it gets interesting. Surprised this one has lasted so long, actually. |
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Van Norden
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:41 am Post subject: |
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007, the dirty word is capitalist. Liberal, though misleading, sounds nicer.
Cleo, did you ever get a response from the mods? |
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007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| scot47 wrote: |
| 'Liberals', 'neo-liberals'. 'modernisers'. You call them that if you want. To me they are just the running dogs of Imperialism. |
Yes, Scot47, you are right, they are the running dogs and fat rats of the New Imperialism.
BTW, Scot47, Why Scotland does not control a broadcasting corporation like the British, who are controlling the BBC? |
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dmb
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007, we have to let the English control something. After all we, Scots control Westminster  No wonder most of England want to break 300 years of tradition and get rid of the Act of the Union.... where would England be without Scotland?
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The average Englishman in the home he call his castle slips into his national costume, a shabby raincoat, patented by Chemist Charles Macintosh from Glasgow, Scotland.
En-route to his office he strides along the English lane, surfaced by John Macadam of Ayr, Scotland.
He drives an English car fitted with tyres invented by John Boyd Dunlop, Veterinary Surgeon of Dreghorn, Scotland.
At the office he receives the mail bearing adhesive stamps invented by John Chalmers, Bookseller and Printer of Dundee, Scotland.
During the day he uses the telephone invented by Alexander Graham Bell, born in Edinburgh, Scotland. At home in the evening his daughter pedals her bicycle invented by Kirkpatrick Macmillan, Blacksmith of Thornhill, Dumfriesshire, Scotland.
He watches the news on television, an invention of John Logie Baird of Helensburgh, Scotland, and hears an item about the U.S. Navy founded by John Paul Jones of Kirkbean, Scotland.
Nowhere can an Englishman turn to escape the ingenuity of the Scots.
He has by now been reminded too much of Scotland and in desperation he picks up the Bible, only to find that the first man mentioned in the good book is a Scot, King James VI, who authorized its translation.
He could take to drink but the Scots make the best in the world.
He could take a rifle and end it all, but the breech-loading rifle was invented by Captain Patrick Ferguson of Pitfours, Scotland.
If he escaped death, he could find himself on an operating table injected with penicillin, discovered by Sir Alexander Fleming of Darvel, Scotland, and given chloroform, an anesthetic discovered by Sir James Young Simpson, Obstetrician and Gynecologist of Bathgate, Scotland.
Out of the anesthetic he would find no comfort in learning that he was as safe as the Bank of England founded by William Paterson of Dumfries, Scotland.
Perhaps his only remaining hope would be to get a transfusion of guid Scottish blood which would entitle him to ask:
"Wha's Like Us?" |
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007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| dmb wrote: |
| 007, we have to let the English control something. After all we, Scots control Westminster No wonder most of England want to break 300 years of tradition and get rid of the Act of the Union.... where would England be without Scotland? |
In this case, I think, England will be drowning in the North Sea without the help of the Scotts.
In case Scotland is divorced from England, do you think Westminster will allow the Scotts to control North Sea Oil???
I think Scot47 should be proud about the achievements of Scotts in the history of her majesty Queen Elizabeth's Kingdom. |
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dmb
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| I need to run off to class now but I'll let Scott 47 give a more detailed answer |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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Wait a minute...
the opposite of liberal is capitalist??
huh?
VS
(loved the handout dmb...) |
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Cleopatra
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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the opposite of liberal is capitalist??
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Dont' know if I'd say 'opposite' but to me, liberalism has nothing neccessarily to do with capitalism, or vice versa.
Maybe it's an Amurican thing, I wouldn't understand... |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Not here Cleo... which is why I posted the question mark there... I see no relationship between the two.
VS |
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007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| dmb wrote: |
| I need to run off to class now but I'll let Scott 47 give a more detailed answer |
"Chancellor Gordon Brown announced that he had obtained the approval of Her Majesty the Queen to issue a �2 coin in honour of the treaty which conjoined the parliaments of Scotland and England.
His metallic enthusiasm for the Union, they say, owes much to his ambition to be the political boss of the still United Kingdom"
In such articles, the Scots are to be lampooned as second-rate and, simultaneously, to be condemned for sending so many of their number south to govern England. "
"The bad news was that Scotland remained a subsidised drain upon England. The good news? Scots, apparently, are dying more quickly than people in England. "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/6199275.stm |
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