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007
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I think Queen of Sheba was right, to a certain extend, when she described the English teachers in the ME as 'blue-collar', and this is the explanation:
"Some distinctive elements of blue-collar work are the lesser requirements for formal academic education which is needed to succeed in other types of work, with many blue collar jobs requiring only a High School Diploma or GED. [4] Blue-collar work typically is hourly wage-labor. Usually, the pay for such occupation is lower than that of the white-collar worker, although higher than many entry-level service occupations. Sometimes the work conditions can be strenuous or hazardous." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue-collar_worker
At least 'bue-collar' worker is much better and more respectful than a 'black collar' worker! At least in some cultures! 
BTW, VS, Van is not a 'trash' , even if he looks like a new hippy in the avator, but still he is a human being with dignity, and has the right for the Oxygen of this earth! |
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Van Norden
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| Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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| veiledsentiments wrote: |
| ...the common term used in the US to describe people that looks like those in the picture... the other term is "poor white trash." |
How charming. Is it really so commonly used? I find it hard to believe. Do the "trash" take it on the chin, with good humour?
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| Horrible? No worse than many of the terms we see here referring to various managements, fellow teachers, students, etc... |
Well it's OK then. Everyone's doing it.
I don't like it the idea that it's a common term in the US and I certainly can't understand why you chose to use it here in this context. Perhaps it's a cultural thing? |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps so... test the photo on a nearby American or two... if they are over 35, I would expect that it would be one of their first thoughts. I expect that your 'homeland' has its own loving term for the type.
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SCHUBERT
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:10 am Post subject: |
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in for a penny, in for a pound, VS. Sport that you are, what about a pic of your dear ol' self ? I am sure we can manage a few 'loving terms' for your type ! Or is there too much to hide behind that veil !?  |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:46 am Post subject: |
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We were discussing an avatar not posters here, or were you not paying attention?
I'd hate to put up my photo and and show that all your little fantasies were so wrong. You would be so disappointed... 
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SCHUBERT
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:04 am Post subject: |
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| you mean thats not Van the Man ! Yikes ! And i rather fancied his bird. But go on, VS - giss' a peak behind the veil. Theres soooo little to look at over here. Some eye-candy sure would be appreciated. Same with QOS .. theres just this tantalizing hint. Please, even that chap on Van's Avatar who isnt Van after all is looking real good from where i'm stood - Help |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:18 am Post subject: |
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Well, yes... that fellow's bare midriff is quite tantalizing for you poor deprived souls over there. The missus does appear to be borderline anorexic though.
But... I should think that even your sad situation has not led you to lust after those of us knocking at the door of 60... no matter how well-preserved we may be  I doubt many would describe me as "eye-candy" anymore.
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Stephen Jones
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:26 am Post subject: |
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| I doubt many would describe me as "eye-candy" anymore. |
You mean it's not only your sentiments that are better veiled? |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| 007 wrote: |
| BTW, VS, Van is not a 'trash' , even if he looks like a new hippy in the avator, but still he is a human being with dignity, and has the right for the Oxygen of this earth! |
BTW... Your lack of reading skills are showing again 007... not only in your obvious inability to understand your own post on what "blue collar" means....
Nowhere did I call VN 'a trash.' [sic] The discussion is of an avatar, not a person. Nor do you apparently have any understanding of what a 'hippy' is or was. The pair are obviously NOT hippies.
And SJ...
a veil can be very useful to cover all sorts of flaws. More men should wear them.
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007
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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| veiledsentiments wrote: |
| .. Nowhere did I call VN 'a trash.' [sic] The discussion is of an avatar, not a person. |
"Excuse me? What a horrible thing to say. Calling any group of people "trash" is as bad as using a racial slur. Very disappointing VS" Quote from Van.
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| .. Nor do you apparently have any understanding of what a 'hippy' is or was. The pair are obviously NOT hippies. |
VS, the �hippy� which I mean is different from the one you are familiar with!
My understanding of a �hippy� is a person who is comfortable with himself/herself that he/she does not hold judgements against anyone else.
A true hippy does not categorise himself/herself by the way he/she dresses but by the way he/she acts.
VS, I reiterate for the 1000000 times that you and me need a special dictionary to understand each other, but, unfortunately, this dictionary does not, and will not exist!
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| ..a veil can be very useful to cover all sorts of flaws. More men should wear them. |
Also, a veil can be very useful to cover all sorts of beauties, more women should wear them.
"Where beauty's veil doth cover every blot. " Unknown Poet. |
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Cleopatra
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| I reiterate for the 1000000 times that you and me need a special dictionary to understand each other |
No - it's just that your understanding of the subtleties of the English language is inadequate, as you prove time and time again. |
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007
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Cleopatra wrote: |
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| I reiterate for the 1000000 times that you and me need a special dictionary to understand each other |
No - it's just that your understanding of the subtleties of the English language is inadequate, as you prove time and time again. |
I did not say an English dictionary, I said a special dictionary, and this dictionary is not about the subtleties of the English language, it is about the �subtleties� and �tips� of different cultures!
Unfortunately, this special dictionary does not exist yet? |
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Cleopatra
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Honestly, Abba, you really should just preserve whatever dignity you have left on this board and give the whole thing up.... |
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