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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:21 am Post subject: |
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Yes Dmb, I have seen the stadium, but there are no spectators nor a football team? Where are they?
A stadium without players is like a table without glasses!  |
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dmb

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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:33 am Post subject: |
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007 wrote on the Turkey forum
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Scotland will play without its defender Steven Pressley, so I think there is a chance that Georgia will win against Scotland.
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:39 am Post subject: |
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dmb wrote: |
007 wrote on the Turkey forum
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Scotland will play without its defender Steven Pressley, so I think there is a chance that Georgia will win against Scotland.
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Yes Dmb, I forgot to congratulate you for this:
Scotland 2-1 Georgia
It seems Scotland did have a chance last time, I hope they will have the same chance in their next game!  |
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dmb

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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:42 am Post subject: |
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Italy beat us in Rugby. What chance do we have in Bari? < dmb tomorrow night. |
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kuberkat
Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 358 Location: Oman
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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Wudam. I spent a happy Eid there housesitting for a friend, so for what it's worth what follows may persuade The Noodles to try Oman over KSA- or not.
Wudam is just about halfway between Muscat and Sohar, just off the national highway. Its main feature is the Navy base and a pleasant coastline, though the fishing might get in the way of beach bumming. My most vivid memories of Wudam are of camels feeding from the backyard garbage skip and invisible speedbumps. Though it is little more than a small town without expat luxuries, the neighbouring towns of Muladdha and Thermid offer your basic modern supermarket, laundry service and culinary options (Pizza Hut, KFC and the genially managed Omar Al-Khayyam as opposed to th binary options of hommous or curry in most Omani towns). Many foreigners in the area make use of the nearby Al-Sawadi beach resort for recreation and forbidden liquids.
What I just can't figure out is who in Wudam would be hiring...? |
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The Noodles
Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 202 Location: China, Chengdu
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:24 am Post subject: |
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Why do the Arabs insist on adding 'Al' to words? Should simply be Omar Khayyam not Omar Al-Khayyam! |
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bje
Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 527
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:19 am Post subject: |
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Why do the Arabs insist on adding 'Al' to words? Should simply be Omar Khayyam not Omar Al-Khayyam! |
My students ask why the westerners insist on adding 'the' 'a' and 'an' to words. Should simply be the noun, they say. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:37 am Post subject: |
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Noodles... "al" = the
They "insist" because it is a grammatical rule...
The rules for use of the definite article in Arabic are slightly different than in English. There is no indefinite article in Arabic, which explains their difficulty with the concept of 'a or an' in English.
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The Noodles
Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 202 Location: China, Chengdu
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:53 am Post subject: |
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So for example if they were to say 'New York' (in Arabic of course ) it would be Al-New York? |
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Flat Capped
Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 19
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:18 am Post subject: |
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It's the Omani Armed Forces that are recruiting in Wudum, presumably to teach the Navy. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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So for example if they were to say 'New York' (in Arabic of course ) it would be Al-New York? |
Probably not as it is not an Arabic word - or at least I have never heard anyone do it or have it show up in an English essay - don't know what happens if they write New York in Arabic in their newspapers. Their transfer errors tend to show up in places where we differ, such as "The Life is good" where we delete it. It is English that has the bizarre article rules.
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The Noodles
Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 202 Location: China, Chengdu
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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It is English that has the bizarre article rules. |
...and spelling rules!  |
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kuberkat
Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 358 Location: Oman
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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My students ask why the westerners insist on adding 'the' 'a' and 'an' to words. Should simply be the noun, they say. |
My students, on the other hand, simply go ahead and connect the indefinite article to innocent bystander nouns. Hence I, since hope springs eternal, proceed to host a mini-workshop at the beginning of each semester on Why We Don't Connect Articles To Nouns In English. This is always followed by an enlightened nodding of heads and what appears to be a spate of lightbulb moments. In the next essay I invariably find that all words beginning with a legitimate a are now separated: a bout, a way, a nother, a round, a bolish, and even a nd.
Why is this the one time my students follow instructions, literally, to the letter? |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the good laugh over my morning tea... yes... I have had that happen too. So, I had to adjust my explanation of the day before just a bit.
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Stephen Jones
Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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We were talking about arab students joining the 'a' to nouns in a seminar given by Terry Phillips last week. One thing to remember is that space is not solely a word delimiter in Arabic, and they need to see what the function of the 'a' is before they understand why they should write it separately. Good old parts of speech training is one solution. |
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