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007



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmb wrote:
If you zoom in there is a football stadium.
http://wikimapia.org/1272381/

Yes Dmb, I have seen the stadium, but there are no spectators nor a football team? Where are they? Laughing
A stadium without players is like a table without glasses! Laughing
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dmb



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

007 wrote on the Turkey forum
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Scotland will play without its defender Steven Pressley, so I think there is a chance that Georgia will win against Scotland.
What do you know about football Wink
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007



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmb wrote:
007 wrote on the Turkey forum
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Scotland will play without its defender Steven Pressley, so I think there is a chance that Georgia will win against Scotland.
What do you know about football Wink


Yes Dmb, I forgot to congratulate you for this:
Scotland 2-1 Georgia

It seems Scotland did have a chance last time, I hope they will have the same chance in their next game! Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Italy beat us in Rugby. What chance do we have in Bari? Crying or Very sad < dmb tomorrow night.
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kuberkat



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wudam. I spent a happy Eid there housesitting for a friend, so for what it's worth what follows may persuade The Noodles to try Oman over KSA- or not.

Wudam is just about halfway between Muscat and Sohar, just off the national highway. Its main feature is the Navy base and a pleasant coastline, though the fishing might get in the way of beach bumming. My most vivid memories of Wudam are of camels feeding from the backyard garbage skip and invisible speedbumps. Though it is little more than a small town without expat luxuries, the neighbouring towns of Muladdha and Thermid offer your basic modern supermarket, laundry service and culinary options (Pizza Hut, KFC and the genially managed Omar Al-Khayyam as opposed to th binary options of hommous or curry in most Omani towns). Many foreigners in the area make use of the nearby Al-Sawadi beach resort for recreation and forbidden liquids.

What I just can't figure out is who in Wudam would be hiring...?
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The Noodles



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do the Arabs insist on adding 'Al' to words? Should simply be Omar Khayyam not Omar Al-Khayyam!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why do the Arabs insist on adding 'Al' to words? Should simply be Omar Khayyam not Omar Al-Khayyam!


My students ask why the westerners insist on adding 'the' 'a' and 'an' to words. Should simply be the noun, they say.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noodles... "al" = the

They "insist" because it is a grammatical rule...

The rules for use of the definite article in Arabic are slightly different than in English. There is no indefinite article in Arabic, which explains their difficulty with the concept of 'a or an' in English.

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The Noodles



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So for example if they were to say 'New York' (in Arabic of course Wink ) it would be Al-New York?
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Flat Capped



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the Omani Armed Forces that are recruiting in Wudum, presumably to teach the Navy.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Noodles wrote:
So for example if they were to say 'New York' (in Arabic of course Wink ) it would be Al-New York?


Probably not as it is not an Arabic word - or at least I have never heard anyone do it or have it show up in an English essay - don't know what happens if they write New York in Arabic in their newspapers. Their transfer errors tend to show up in places where we differ, such as "The Life is good" where we delete it. It is English that has the bizarre article rules. Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It is English that has the bizarre article rules.


...and spelling rules! Wink
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kuberkat



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My students ask why the westerners insist on adding 'the' 'a' and 'an' to words. Should simply be the noun, they say.


My students, on the other hand, simply go ahead and connect the indefinite article to innocent bystander nouns. Hence I, since hope springs eternal, proceed to host a mini-workshop at the beginning of each semester on Why We Don't Connect Articles To Nouns In English. This is always followed by an enlightened nodding of heads and what appears to be a spate of lightbulb moments. In the next essay I invariably find that all words beginning with a legitimate a are now separated: a bout, a way, a nother, a round, a bolish, and even a nd.

Why is this the one time my students follow instructions, literally, to the letter?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the good laugh over my morning tea... yes... I have had that happen too. So, I had to adjust my explanation of the day before just a bit. Laughing

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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We were talking about arab students joining the 'a' to nouns in a seminar given by Terry Phillips last week. One thing to remember is that space is not solely a word delimiter in Arabic, and they need to see what the function of the 'a' is before they understand why they should write it separately. Good old parts of speech training is one solution.
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