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Gypsy Rose Kim
Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 151
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Problems would not arise if pet-owners didn't travel with their animals in the first place, or purchase pets abroad and move them from one country to the next, sometimes multiple times. Not saying it can't be done. But I think people who live a nomadic lifestyle (as ESL teachers tend to do for parts of their life), should not inflict this stressful regime on their pets. In fact, I find it a bit selfish. |
Okay, some pet owners are selfish. But we all know that already. It doesn't have much to do with one's job or even how often they move.
I'm moving from Seoul to Tokyo. It's half a day's journey at most. They've always lived in an apartment, and they are happy, well-adjusted, and get along very well with each other. I think we have a very nice family and it'd be selfish to break that up just because it's going to be a little difficult and very expensive for me to get organized.
It's really judgemental to say "I find it a bit selfish" when you really don't know the whole story. I know you probably didn't mean it that way. Most of us have pets that were rescued, anyway. |
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User N. Ame
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 222 Location: Kanto
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm pretty sure most people get pets a long time before they realise that moving abroad is part of the plan. |
Exactly, which is why taking pets overseas requires careful, thorough thought and research.
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| Your friend obviously didn't secure the house well enough. Cats are supposed to be kept indoors for at least 3 months in any new house. The SPCA/Humane Societies in North America don't recommend they be let out at all. |
Every cat has its own personality. Suddenly thrusting a cat into an alien situation, where food, surroudings, climate, smells and so on are unknown, many unpredictable behavoirs can arise. For example, going from Canada's west coast into the thick of Japanese summer is a shock to any person or animal's system. In the case of my friend, she was living in a rural area, arrived in summer, had inadequate cooling system in her apartment. After a week, the cat was going stir crazy, not to mention experiencing heat exhaustion, wasn't eating, dehydrated. She made a choice to let the cat out. For a few days it seemed ok, then poof - vanished.
Gypsy, you sound like you have your act well together and have lots of experience already. But I can't say the same for every foreign pet owner I've met. I hope they read this message and understand it's not as simple as booking your pet air passage and getting the health clearance. There's lots to consider. Best thing to do is consult your vet in your home country, or a vet who truly knows the research on overseas pet travel. And lots of Internet research. And do so months (not weeks or days) prior to departure.
The financial aspect can't be underestimated. You arrive in Japan for first time with cat in tow, you have little or no cash until your first couple of checks. Your cat gets sick, you don't understand the language... just be prepared is all.
Good luck. |
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Florizalll
Joined: 01 Apr 2006 Posts: 42
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:22 am Post subject: Bring a pet to Japan within the last year? |
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A bit more than 6 months before moving to Japan I started the paperwork and procedures to get my cat from the US to Japan. Some airlines will let the pet fly in-cabin with restrictions, but these restrictions are so rigid that it meant that she'd have to go in cargo. All the money and time spent preparing the cat to go and the last bit of paperwork due a day or so before the flight wasn't properly done- she couldn't come. She'd have to go for at least 12 hours in quaranteen in Narita no matter what. I'm still deciding if it's worth a second shot.
Anybody successfully bring a pet to Japan within the last year or so? |
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sethness
Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 209 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:35 pm Post subject: pet friendly apartments / 100,000 option to quarantine |
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First, the good news: If Tokyo is like my city, then most realtors will have a separate, easily accessed group of listings for apartments which allow pets.
I've heard that they tend to be 5,000-10,000 yen per month more expensive than regular apartments, but this is only something I've HEARD. Frankly, I'm not believing it-- I'd assume that pet-permitted apartments are simply apartments in which there was a pet before, and will be pets in the future, so that the landlord is not worried about removing all the fur and dander for the next (possibly allergic) tenant.
Second, the question:
Huh? Why would the Japanese quarantine folks permit one to BUY a leniency for quarantine?
I'd have expected that money wouldn't make a difference, since germs can't be bribed... but I would have expectged that there might be more humane alternatives-- Micronesia, for example, no longer requires pets to be kept for 6 months in tiny cages outdoors in a quarantine compound-- pets are simply under "house arrest" at their owners' apartments until they are pronounced free-^and-clear of transmissible diseases like Rabies.
What are the terms of the release-from-quarantine that you paid for? |
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Gypsy Rose Kim
Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 151
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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My vets in Seoul are awesome and took care of everything for me, I just paid a flat rate of about 100,000 yen per cat. Here's what that entailed and why my cats will not have to be quarantined for more than 12 hours:
1. I had both cats microchipped with whatever type of microchip the Japanese quarantine dept asked for.
2. They were given rabies vaccinations that day. (Previous vaccinations didn't count, you have to start over after the microchipping.)
3. A second rabies vaccine 30 days later.
4. Blood test sent to a lab approved by Japanese quarantine 30 days after the second rabies test.
5. After that, you have to wait six months, then do another blood test. If it's all clear, they issue you a certificate.
6. Notify quarantine at your planned port of entry in Japan. Tell them the day and time you'll be arriving.
7. Arrive with pets, hand over the documents, let them give the animals a thorough check-up, and you're through.
It's not really like paying to get out of quarantine. It's paying for all the stuff you have to do to prove you're good to go. I'm between step 4 and 5 right now, still bloody waiting for the time when I can bring them over.
I'm surprised the previous poster thought it could be done in six months. Maybe she'd already had them microchipped and kept all the records? I'd have been settled nicely in Tokyo by now if that were the case.
Oh, and by the way, it's not AT LEAST twelve hours at your port of entry. It's twelve hours maximum. That's just the time it will need for them to get a vet there if you don't have an appointment or if there is some other delay. A friend of mine who's station on Misawa was done in 30 minutes. |
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6810

Joined: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 309
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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In my experience (and my cat's) apartments which allow pets fall into two categories.
1. Shoddy, dodgy, old and decrepit. is - the owners don't care if the place gets damaged by animals because it is already rather run down. Cheap and not so necessarily nice. That said, some of these cheaper, run down places can be quite spacious, especially if you can get a house.
2. Brand new and built for pets. This includes "hard" wall coverings, pet doors in doors, electric outlets off the ground and out of the reach of dogs and a dedicated "bathroom" including shower area and "toilet" for flushing away Fido's fun. This type of pad is becoming more common.
I have experienced the latter. This was more expensive, but then again, the place was only three years old and fairly well equipped with the latest (well 2003's) mod cons.
As the above poster said - most real estate agents have a special set of places listed for "pets ok".
There are also "dogs ok" but not "cat's ok" places.
Have fun. |
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Gypsy Rose Kim
Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 151
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:47 am Post subject: |
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Just to update this one.
I got my cats through quarantine at Narita in about 30 minutes, too.
There were two mistakes on my paperwork. Tiny ones. One was that one of the forms said one cat was "calico" and the other said "brown/white/black". They want everything to be consistent. I don't remember the other mistake, but it was something along the same lines.
This resulted in the usual Japanese-style lecture, and lots of bowing and apologizing on my part. They told me they could have sent my cats back over the mistakes, so be careful. I doubt they would, but they law states that they are supposed to.
I let my Korean vets handle all the paperwork, and their English skills probably accounted for the errors. I was negligent not to have double checked.
Everything went well, but try to learn by my mistakes.
And good luck to everyone who is bringing in pets. My cats are well-settled and totally happy here. And I am soooo happy to have them. |
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flicknut
Joined: 03 Jul 2008 Posts: 8
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:52 am Post subject: 180 day waiting period |
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| I'm in Korea. It's November and I'm planning to move my cat to Japan in March. I guess I'm already behind in the game since my cat has to have an ID chip for 180 days before moving? Is that right? |
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Quibby84

Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 643 Location: Japan
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:18 am Post subject: |
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| It depends if Korea is a rabie free country or not. |
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JL

Joined: 26 Oct 2008 Posts: 241 Location: Las Vegas, NV USA
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:37 am Post subject: |
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Korea is not on the list I link to below, so no, you cannot get around the 180 day rule (the 180 days only count from once the lab gets a blood sample from a pet ALREADY ISO-compatible micro-chipped). If you try and skirt around the rules, your cat will be quarantined at your port of entry, until the quarantine period is met. And you will be paying for each and every day that your pet is in their care.
http://www.maff.go.jp/aqs/english/animal/dog/index.html |
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