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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Cleopatra

Joined: 28 Jun 2003 Posts: 3657 Location: Tuamago Archipelago
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:28 am Post subject: |
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In my first job in KSA we had an ongoing variation on the insoluble nature-nurture debate: namely, are the weirdos already weird before they come here, or is it just that this place makes you weird? The general agreement was that the answer was "A little bit of both".
Personally, I partly agree with Stephen when he says that people here aren't any more weird than people elsewhere, it's just that you notice them more. I do think that there is a higher proportion of crackpotsworking in KSA than in other places, but I don't think that the weirdo count is quite as abnormally high as we sometimes think. It's just that conditions here tend to bring out the inner weirdo in all of us: what's the old saying, "Whatever you are Saudi Arabia makes it more so"?
People tend to live in one another's pockets here, not only working together, but travelling to and from work together and living in close quarters too. Combine this with the frustration, boredom and routine many people experience when living here, and any eccentricities tend to be magnified. I really don't think you can overestimate the importance of the boredom factor: people who elsewhere would have their frustrations and oddities channelled into other activities (or at least diluted by contact with a wider range of people) can begin to seem distinctly weird in the goldfish bowl environment of life in the K of SA. |
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Van Norden
Joined: 23 Oct 2004 Posts: 409
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:46 am Post subject: |
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| not wishing to pour it down the toilet, proceeded to drink the lot with his flatmate, with the results they both fell into a drunken stupor for the next 48 hours. |
I think we can all relate to that! Who among us hasn't, at least once in their time here, gone overboard with the vino? The trick is to avoid making a habit of it. Or, if you can't manage that, make sure you start your binges as early as possible on the Wednesday afternoon. |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| Now that I am 'reformed' I find Saudi easier to deal with. This is not an easy environment for a performing drunk. |
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| Van Norden wrote: |
| I think we can all relate to that! Who among us hasn't, at least once in their time here, gone overboard with the vino? The trick is to avoid making a habit of it. Or, if you can't manage that, make sure you start your binges as early as possible on the Wednesday afternoon. |
I have never gone with the Vino, neither with a Wino, but I have gone with a Pepino.
My friend Van, here are Five Simple Steps to Stopping a Binge (By King Cobra and Dmb):
1. Be yourself and train your mind and soul to win the war against the binge
2. Throw out all staff in your house that you like to binge on.
3. Buy a diary, and write down all your binge habits during the day, also write down how you feel before and after the binge experience.
4. Take a warm bubble bath, and listen to classical music by Rahmaninov and Luciano Pavaroti, then go for a walk on a nice hot day with your friend Bandar.
5. The final step is talk about your binge with a trusted, open-minded, liberal Muttawaa from your local area. Talk to this Muttawwa about how you are feeling before and after your binge. If you are upset, just vent your angriness to him!
I hope my above 5 steps will help you tackle the problem of binge!
Van, good luck!  |
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dmb

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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I had nothing to do with the above list.
proof?
I am Scottish. I get them free midway through January from clients.
anyway, i'm off down the pub for a sneaky mid week swifter with a fellow ex-Gulfer.
(Both of our Mrs have gone out shopping) |
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I am Scottish. |
Of course, I know very well that you are 100% Scottish, no doubt about that at all!
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| I get them free midway through January from clients. |
My associate Dmb, I suggest you send a copy of diary as a gift from us to our resident poet, Van.
Dmb, do not forget to sign the diary, with a compliment from us.  |
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dmb

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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My associate Dmb, I suggest you send a copy of diary as a gift from us to our resident poet, Van |
I am sure Van appreciates that the postage from Turkey to KSA is far to expensive. Sorry Van. |
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I am sure Van appreciates that the postage from Turkey to KSA is far to expensive. Sorry Van. |
Typical Scottish, now I understand why a Scottish got a heart attack for losing 10p!  |
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dmb

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 5:05 am Post subject: |
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| didn't you know copper wire was discovered by two Scots fighting over a penny piece? |
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running dog
Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 37
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| While no fan of eccentricity for its own sake, I have to admit the creepiest teachers I ever came across in Saudi were the supposedly "normal" ones. How could it be otherwise? Oh, they'd heard about the place before they arrived; the cultural and religious differences, the climate, the political situation, but what they seemed to have been expecting was somewhere like Mexico with perhaps a few more palm trees, and camels instead those cute donkeys you see in all the westerns. And then, bit by little bit, the truth would start to sink in ...... How long did it usually take before signs of incipient psychosis began to appear? A month? Two? The sudden, unexpected losses of concentration ("Where did I put that pen/worksheet? I mean, I had it in my hand a minute ago"), the unwarranted bursts of fury or paranoia ("I know what THEY'RE saying about me"), the attacks of lethargy or asthma ("Not coming in this morning. Sorry. Can't seem to get out of bed"), the grandiose plans for immediate escape ("I'm outta here, man. Now! Back to Japan!"). The predictable bafflement and fear of a western educated mind when forced to deal with a set of demands and mores that have all the consistency of phantom spaghetti. Alas, poor "sanity" ............. When the going gets weird, the weird are as close to being in their element as they're ever likely to be |
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Beast
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 120
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 3:58 pm Post subject: Camel Dung in the Post |
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| There was a guy with International House in Jubail that used to send Camel Dung to people in the US and UK that he didn't like. They finally dropped him off across the bridge in Bahrain with No ticket and a promise that a visa was coming. None ever did. |
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Queen of Sheba
Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 397
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| The thing thats amusing with this story is that this guy used to pay to send those camel dung messages. I would have thought the school would have kept him around, if for nothing else, cleaning the streets of dung. |
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scot47

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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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The fact is that you can function fairly well in Saudi even when you are very odd. Nobody notices or, if they do, they don't care.
It is when you get back to Planet Terra that peoiple beging to notice. The men in white coats are often called in then. Or the pychonaut comes back to the Magic Kingdom. Personally I have reached the stage where I like it here.
It IS much nicer than Broadmoor or Carstairs. |
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Stephen Jones
Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| They finally dropped him off across the bridge in Bahrain with No ticket and a promise that a visa was coming. None ever did. |
Tells you something ab out IH Saudi as an employer. |
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