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Teacher who can't teach
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dunno. I was 5-11 years old, mid /60's - early '70s. Washington, DC area. There were 20 kids in my class and 6 teachers. We had stations for math, reading, science, etc. with a teacher for each station, and total freedom to spend our time as we wished. No grades, but we were constantly tested for 'levels' in the core subjects, so our report cards read stuff like "reading at year 12 level." The school was considered in the top in the country at the time, and I think the project was successful overall, but there were some reactions against the perceived freedom of schools organized this way (public schools, funded by tax dollars - it wasn't a private school) and so far as I know this approach hasn't been used in public schools in the States for a long time now.
I think in Canada it was also in use, called something like 'open plan' learning.
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guangho



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first ESL teacher in Philly was an extravagantly mustachioed Mexican gentleman whose first and last class began thusly:

"Hehehe...my English not so good you see."
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John Hall



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
Dunno. I was 5-11 years old, mid /60's - early '70s. Washington, DC area. There were 20 kids in my class and 6 teachers. We had stations for math, reading, science, etc. with a teacher for each station, and total freedom to spend our time as we wished. No grades, but we were constantly tested for 'levels' in the core subjects, so our report cards read stuff like "reading at year 12 level." The school was considered in the top in the country at the time, and I think the project was successful overall, but there were some reactions against the perceived freedom of schools organized this way (public schools, funded by tax dollars - it wasn't a private school) and so far as I know this approach hasn't been used in public schools in the States for a long time now.
I think in Canada it was also in use, called something like 'open plan' learning.


Sounds to me like the school may have been a John Dewey school. Here is an example of one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dewey_High_School
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soapdodger



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:30 pm    Post subject: teachers who can't teach Reply with quote

If everyone who wasn't a teacher or couldn't teach was fired at once, there would be a sonic boom loud enough to be heard on Pluto as the EFL trade imploded.
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There were 20 kids in my class and 6 teachers.
No wonder the results were among the best in the country and no wonder the government closed it down. You're talking about a teacherlpupil ratio tens times the norm in the UK.
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shuize



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:47 am    Post subject: Re: teachers who can't teach Reply with quote

soapdodger wrote:
If everyone who wasn't a teacher or couldn't teach was fired at once, there would be a sonic boom loud enough to be heard on Pluto as the EFL trade imploded.


QFT.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, we were pretty lucky, and got way more than our share of tax dollars, for sure. The idea does seem essentially unworkable (logistics-wise).
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Khrystene



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:50 pm    Post subject: Pray for it! Reply with quote

A teacher {cough!} who at University, made the students pray for the first 15 minutes of the class.... every class!

He was sacked. Yes, even in Poland!

He's well remembered.
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JonnyB61



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't see this myself but, during my time in Saudi some students showed me photos on their mobile phones of a teacher teaching a class stark, bollock naked.

It seems that he wanted to resign but his employer refused to release him or return his passport. So, our gallant hero stripped off and taught all his classes in the buff until his employer agreed to release him.

Quite quickly, I imagine.
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soapdodger



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:54 am    Post subject: teachers who can't teach Reply with quote

I could write a book on freaks in EFL, but two come to mind.

One guy, who had actually had a spell in mental hospital and was very kindly reemployed by the UK school he'd worked for before cracked up again. Teaching a class of mature German students Old Macdonald ( for God's sake...) and dissatisfied at their lack of enthusiasm he ended up screaming "Moo,Moo, you're a cow! Come on! Mooo!" Quite a sight.

A while ago a group of Polish students had the exciting experience of having their Australian teacher arrested before their eyes.....for murdering his landlord in London. Charming.
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Aussie Chick



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:19 am    Post subject: Re: teachers who can't teach Reply with quote

soapdodger wrote:
A while ago a group of Polish students had the exciting experience of having their Australian teacher arrested before their eyes.....for murdering his landlord in London. Charming.


What do you expect of someone from a penal colony? Razz
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biffinbridge



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:16 am    Post subject: ha ha Reply with quote

I remember observing a guy in Warsaw many moons ago who held up a flash card in full view of his students proclaiming that he was 'having a nightmare'.Funnily enough he turned up at QAC many years later.
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Nutmegger



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:42 am    Post subject: Re: Teacher who can't teach Reply with quote

dmb wrote:
Does anyone have any stories?

I once had to fire a guy because he was ... well not a teacher.

It was a zero beginner class and he totally lost it in the class(I was observing) because the student said "I live Istanbul"

He then dropped to his knees and started shouting "IN Istanbul IN Istanbul"

The other students were obviously freaked out and started muttering in Turkish 'what's going on' He was infuriated more by this, took his shoe off and threw it at the window. It smashed. I wonder what his unobserved lessons were like.



Did he have any previous experience or training? Or was that not the issue and the man just snapped?
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BUt let's be honest here- there are a lot of qualified, experienced teachers on this board, who I have every reason to believe are GOOD teachers....


And yet, haven't you ever come close to the edge? A little too close to the ragged edge of insanity? FLipped out a bit?

It happens...


Best,
Justin
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Jetgirly



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't flip out at work.
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