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J.
Joined: 03 May 2003
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 Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:39 pm Post subject: Ya' know |
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I really feel for you but it doesn't seem like you are really listening to anyone here. Maybe you are so frustrated that you have just "given up". I don't know. BUT, do you have the money to stay for a few weeks while you try to find another job? There seem to be plenty of jobs at ohayosensei now, and it seems you could find one if you have the money to hang in there for just a few weeks. Your new company might even extend a loan until your first paycheck comes through.
I think you will feel an enormous sense of relief as soon as you get out of that house. It is probably so claustrophobic that you can't think straight. If you are thinking of staying then you should find alternate accommodation ASAP. |
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shuize
Joined: 04 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure how not wanting to living with "rude people" justifies putting yourself in such a desperate position. But for the sake of this discussion, I'll take your word for it.
How bad do you want to stay in Japan? Maybe you can turn this living together thing to your advantage. Apparently there are other jobs available with a few weeks. Tell your boss that you are not sure what you're going to do yet and plan on staying in the house until you decide. Be a little irrational yourself. Tell her your job and your housing are not connected. Tell her you'll start paying rent as soon as you get a new job. String her along for the two weeks you need. If she demands that you leave, ask for reasonable moving expenses. |
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Big John Stud
Joined: 07 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:17 am Post subject: Re: When something unexpected happens ... |
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How to begin ...
God forbid I`m left with no choice but Taiwan. That strikes me as being Korea - Part Two. Suggestions, words of encouragement, knock-knock jokes, smiley emoticons? Send them my way.
Signed,
Green Eyes and Ham |
No Taiwan is not as bad as Korea! I taught there too, and the Korean so called colleagues also went through my stuff when they thought I wasn't around. And the students were out right rude. Had a much better time in Taiwan.
Yes the big 4 will hire within Japan. You do have chance, but you really need to look sharp and just keep applying.
Lesson to be learned, never stay with a boss in Japan. I did the same mistake one, but only for one day, and that one day ruined that job.
Don't get me wrong! There are good and bad in every culture, race and so on. However, living with someone your lively hood is based puts you in a very fragil situation! |
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GreenEyes
Joined: 22 Jun 2007
Posts: 40
Location: Japan
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:26 am Post subject: |
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I`m not sure how you can conclude that I`m ignoring the advice on this thread. Granted I have not provided details about my situation beyond the basics, but that`s what I`m focused on right now: the basics. And so you`ll know, I did have a job lined up when I initially gave notice, but it fell through. The teacher I would have replaced decided to stay. Meanwhile things began to deteriorate here, and so I took a risk, knowingly placing myself in this situation. And I doubt I`m the first to do so.
I`ve got two interviews today, and I already have one strong possibility that requires some waiting. But one of these jobs has a sketchy contract, and I`m not going to jump at it should I be offered that job. If we can manage to see eye to eye and negotiate, I`d consider working for them. But at this point - and after what I`ve been through - I`d rather return to my home country than land in another wobbly situation. After some surprisingly tearful goodbyes last night from my older students, I would rather search for work while living among friends back home than disappoint yet another group of students.
I`m just like that ... no matter how broke I might be, I do have ethics and will never place money first. Anything negative to say about that? No problem. Go for it.
Now, I have a class to teach!  |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 12844
Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:49 am Post subject: |
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| AEON holds regular information meetings and group interview sessions at our offices in Los Angeles, CA; Chicago, IL; New York, NY; Toronto, ON; and Sydney, Australia. Recruiting trips are also conducted throughout the United States, Canada and Australia as well as in London, England. Interviews can also be arranged within Japan for those who reside in Japan. |
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I'M IN JAPAN NOW. CAN I STILL APPLY?
All applicants must presently be in Canada, USA, UK, Australia, or New Zealand. We regret that applications from within Japan or other countries outside of these centres will not be considered. http://www.geoscareer.com/faqs.html#In%20Japan%20now |
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From NOVA:
Information sessions and interviews are held regularly at our offices in several cities around the world. [the list of locations includes Tokyo and Osaka] |
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From ECC:
Applicants interested in applying/interviewing through other locations, including Japan should send a cover letter and resume http://www.japanbound.com/FAQs.html |
So, it appears that GEOS is the only one of the Big Four that does NOT interview in Japan.
GreenEyes,
If you have enough money to support yourself, get out now and move into a gaijin house. No utilities to pay, and you can practically pay as you go instead of anchor yourself with a long-term lease.
You are pretty emotional right now about not wanting to "land in another wobbly situation". What makes you think all others (or the majority, anyway) are wobbly?
Get out now if you can support yourself for a couple of weeks. You realize that unless the new employer is able to loan you money, you will not see a paycheck for 4-6 weeks after you get the last money from the current employer. Just simple financial thinking, but you should have THAT much money at hand. At the very least, don't wait until you're hired to move out of your employer's home! Going back home to look for work here will only limit you immensely, as you probably know. That won't do your confidence any good, either. |
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wabisabi365
Joined: 04 Feb 2007
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Location: japan
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J.
Joined: 03 May 2003
Posts: 327
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:14 am Post subject: Negative...pot and kettle I think. |
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Listen, I'm glad you seem to be coping fine, but why come here and ask for help and have lots of people give you advice, in fact go out of their way to try to offer suggestions, and then YOU are pretty rude to them. I objected to the way you responded to the person who thought they knew your school. Maybe they were mistaken, but so what? They were trying to empathize with you.
That's the only negative thing I have to say.
Other than that, good luck! I hope everything works out okay for you. |
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fat_chris
Joined: 10 Sep 2003
Posts: 3198
Location: Beijing
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:29 pm Post subject: Re: When something unexpected happens ... |
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| Lynn wrote: |
| I think it sounds familiar because I know there is a school in Aichi (or maybe it's Gifu) where the employer has the teacher live with her. I was looking for a job a few years ago and almost applied for it until I read the horror stories on this forum. I'm sure it's the same school. |
Well, after all, Toyohashi is in Aichi Prefecture, so I can see how the connection would have been made in regards to suspecting that this is the school.
Lynn, you have 666 posts!  
Hee hee! 
Regards,
fat_c
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User N. Ame
Joined: 11 Dec 2006
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Location: Kanto
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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Similar to what others have advised, don't panic. You have a work visa, I presume, so there's nothing (except personal funds) preventing you from staying for the duration and finding something else.
Get out of your your town, book into a guest house in a large city like Tokyo, and if you have a credit card with a reasonable overdraft limit, use it. Sometimes going into debt is justified and if you really want your Japan dream to work, you'll make the appropriate sacrifices.
Companies like Gaba can get you up and running pretty quickly, and they pay per hour, flexible... will get you by til you find a more stable job.
Learn from your hard lesson and move forward, grasshopper. |
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GreenEyes
Joined: 22 Jun 2007
Posts: 40
Location: Japan
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Hai, sensei. Grasshopper is hopping.
About what I wrote in response to someone`s suggestion that they might know which school I work for ... upon review of what I wrote I can see your point. That`s not at all how I intended to come across, but such is life as yet another "personality" on the Internet. Sorry about that.
I`ve got some good leads and good advice. I`m working the mill and doing what I can. I`ll post back here when a decision is made.
Thanks, everyone. I appreciate your encouragement. |
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GreenEyes
Joined: 22 Jun 2007
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Location: Japan
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:55 am Post subject: |
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Things are looking better. I`ve got some options in place and really appreciate all of the great suggestions and PMs.
Cheers! |
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fat_chris
Joined: 10 Sep 2003
Posts: 3198
Location: Beijing
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject: Bein' about it, not just talkin' about it |
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| GreenEyes wrote: |
Things are looking better. I`ve got some options in place and really appreciate all of the great suggestions and PMs.
Cheers! |
Nice! Good on ya! Make it happen!
Regards,
fat_c |
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GreenEyes
Joined: 22 Jun 2007
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Location: Japan
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My current employer is refusing to pay me my last week of work. I`ve been paid for June, but not for the one week I worked in July. She says she`s not paying because of two new classes she had to cancel because of my leaving. I`ve been teaching those new classes for two months. Not only is she refusing to pay me (she claims that she didn`t get paid for them because she told the students it was free on account of the teacher quitting), but she has suggested that I owe her for the last two months as well.
Arg.
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shuize
Joined: 04 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:28 am Post subject: |
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My current employer is refusing to pay me my last week of work. I`ve been paid for June, but not for the one week I worked in July. She says she`s not paying because of two new classes she had to cancel because of my leaving (weekly English yoga classes). I`ve been teaching those new classes for two months. Not only is she refusing to pay me (she claims that she didn`t get paid for them because she told the students it was free on account of the teacher quitting), but she has suggested that I owe her for the last two months as well.
Arg. |
You'd probably be better off just to cut your losses. One week is not the end of the world.
However, once, many years ago, I had a run in with an employer at the end of my term who would not give me some of my back pay. Fortunately, I had a set of the school's keys which were eventually turned over once she deposited the money I was due. I suspect in the cost/benefit analysis changing locks cost more than what she owed me.
It was from that example that I learned that there is a limit to being reasonable and sometimes it helps to turn a little irrational. |
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Gordon
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan
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| Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:10 am Post subject: |
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| GreenEyes wrote: |
My current employer is refusing to pay me my last week of work. I`ve been paid for June, but not for the one week I worked in July. She says she`s not paying because of two new classes she had to cancel because of my leaving (weekly English yoga classes). I`ve been teaching those new classes for two months. Not only is she refusing to pay me (she claims that she didn`t get paid for them because she told the students it was free on account of the teacher quitting), but she has suggested that I owe her for the last two months as well.
Arg. |
Forget about the week`s pay. |
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