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Why do they ask for photos?
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desultude



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, in Korea a photo is necessary, for everyone.

BUT! In Korea if you get your photo taken, at the local passport photo place or at a studio, they will airbrush the hell out of it. So much for what a photo can tell.

I have a resume photo taken 3 years ago at a little drop in passport photo place in Daegu (South Korea). It is what I use for my job applications, multipl photo requests, etc. My friends (?) here in the States ask me, when they see it on my C.V., why I don't use a more recent photo. The airbrushing that was done to my photo as a matter of course took at least 10 years off my age.

Since everyone in Korea does the same with their pics, it is advisable to follow suit. The picture will allay some of the ageism. By giving a stone cold honest unvarnished picture, you will look older than you are to Koreans. The expectation is that any photo is retouched, and they will think you look damned old in an untouched photo.

I am young and very fit for my age, but a little help in the photo department is useful when applying in Asia. Cool

Oh, and if you are hired from abroad, and you arrive jet lagged, haggard and 10 years older looking than your pic, well, you have your contract and a year to convince them of your abilities and charms. Wink
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MikeySaid



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MELEE wrote:
If applying for jobs in Latin America, its a good idea to put a small head shot in the upper right hand corner of the resume--that's standard practice here.


Ditto for the United States of America... isn't it?
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeySaid wrote:
MELEE wrote:
If applying for jobs in Latin America, its a good idea to put a small head shot in the upper right hand corner of the resume--that's standard practice here.


Ditto for the United States of America... isn't it?


IS IT?
It sure wasn't 15 years ago when I recieved my "career counselling", the opposite, it would have been a major faux pas.
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denise



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never heard of attaching photos in the US. Nor age, marital status, etc.

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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But would it really be a faux pas? As in, the person receiving the CV with a photo would think to him or herself "Oh my word, a photo!" and into the shredder?
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desultude



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
But would it really be a faux pas? As in, the person receiving the CV with a photo would think to him or herself "Oh my word, a photo!" and into the shredder?


Actually, I have heard that this can happen. Giving "too much information" opens up the employer to charges of bias. That is why age, race, sex, etc. are left off from U.S. resumes and C.V.s. A very careful employer may want to skip over the resume with the picture of the pretty young blond woman.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, if one sent a photo, would it be discrimination if the person were rejected for sending the photo? "I wasn't considered for the position because I sent my photo, probably because I'm blonde, black, Asian, etc."

These are the times I'm so happy I escaped the funny farm.
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william wallace



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the person young or OLD ? Attractive(as in attracting opposite sex student/customer) or UGLY ? Lily white or OF COLOUR ? Well groomed or DISHEVELED ? I get warning bells with this request,as it detracts from the qualifications, even if marginally.
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shuize



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tedkarma wrote:
Enter dear Beth (I forgot her name - we'll call her Beth). They didn't tell her this and it turned out she was about 300 pounds - on a light day. Beth had quit her college job in the States, sold her house and furnishings - and headed out for a life overseas. Needless to say - she didn't work out at the college. She couldn't get to her classes.

Now, I understand what they SHOULD have done before AND after they hired her. But these things tend to not be done overseas.

I suspect a photo - which wasn't with her resume, though it was requested - would have prevented a major financial and personal problem in her life.

Maybe I've been overseas too long myself, but I'm having trouble comprehending how someone nearly 200 pounds overweight thinks they're going to manage in Asia. A little advance research on her part would soon reveal it's not like back home where ma and pa fatbottom pile in the car with their portly kids to drive three blocks to the local Krispy Kreme, people actually walk from point A to point B over here.
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
These are the times I'm so happy I escaped the funny farm.


Yes! So often I note my happiness at avoiding political correctness and all the ways in which it corrupts real communication.
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maybe I've been overseas too long myself, but I'm having trouble comprehending how someone nearly 200 pounds overweight thinks they're going to manage in Asia. A little advance research on her part would soon reveal it's not like back home where ma and pa fatbottom pile in the car with their portly kids to drive three blocks to the local Krispy Kreme, people actually walk from point A to point B over here.


Unfortunately she believed what her Korean students in the USA told her - that Korea was a fully developed and modern country . . .
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't a country be 'fully developed and modern' without necessarily catering to Fatbottom culture?

I think so Shocked
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andyOhio



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:14 pm    Post subject: photos on resumes Reply with quote

MELEE wrote:
MikeySaid wrote:
MELEE wrote:
If applying for jobs in Latin America, its a good idea to put a small head shot in the upper right hand corner of the resume--that's standard practice here.


Ditto for the United States of America... isn't it?


IS IT?
It sure wasn't 15 years ago when I recieved my "career counselling", the opposite, it would have been a major faux pas.


It depends on the job you are applying for. Most careers don't require it on the resume, but your appearance still matters when you go into the interview.
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