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spiral78



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tip, helen. As we've got work colleagues with A dog already there, we'll try to get the vet connections through them. We're not going to Saudi, so I'm hopeful that the laws won't be quite as onerous in other ME countries...still up in the air about exactly where we may be posted, but it's not Saudi.
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007



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
C'mon over to visit Europe - you'll enjoy the beautiful cities (and their dog-friendly ways )Very Happy

spiral78 wrote:
Still wondering whether our friend 007's going to take me up on the invitation to visit European capitols. There are daily flights Riyahd - Prague these days, I understand.

For your information, I have spent 8 years of my life studying for my postgraduate degrees in UK, and have visited nearly all capitals of Europe from London to Rome.
Some European cities are nice, like London, and others are ugly like Prague.
And still, now I am with one 'leg' in UK and the other in KSA.

I am familiar with all types of dogs living in UK, from Scottish Terrier, Maltese and English Bulldog (very dangerous one, several years ago, I was attacked by one English Bulldog while I was jogging in Hyde Park).
Now in UK it is an offense to get some types of dogs in taxi and buses. And some types of dangerous dogs like Pit Bull Terrier, Japanese Tosa , Dogo Argentino, Fila Braziliero are banned in UK and it illegal to possess them without a certificate of exemption! And if possessed they should be kept securely in a lead and under the control of a person not under 17 yrs of age!



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Our dog's got a flat in Canada and one here in the Czech Rep, and no garden anywhere, so that's SOP for him.

You dog is very lucky. The majority of dogs in Saudi Arabia are stray and wild dogs without any protection, and are homeless.
And if caught by the Saudi Authorities are send to China for BBQ there Laughing

spiral78 wrote:
still up in the air about exactly where we may be posted, but it's not Saudi.

Let's hope that you will not be posted to the magic kingdom so that your dog will have the privilege of a flat and a garden Laughing
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gee, 007, great thanks for the update on dogs banned in the UK.
Guess we won't be meeting up in Prague after all. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have recently come to hate dogs-or dog owners, I'm not sure which.
This will not endear me to many of you.
Don't get me wrong..I grew up with dogs all my life- a king charles spaniel, a poodle and a yorkhire terrier.....but it has lately become a fad in Kuwait to own as big a dog , with as loud a bark as is caninely possible. It has also become popular to move into residential neighbourhoods with your dog and let it bark all night long -OUTSIDE....NEXT DOOR to me.

Two things trouble me: if you love dogs so much, then why is your Sri Lanken maid walking your dalmation (isn't walking one of the joys of dog ownership?) and although I believe dogs are outdoor animals, the average summer nightime temperature here of 45+ leads me to believe that your dog is probably barking so much because he's bl@ody hot sitting out there in your d@mn yard.....or perhaps I'm just obsessed.

To all dog owners in the vicinity of my house- get a budgie.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

miski wrote:
Two things trouble me: if you love dogs so much, then why is your Sri Lanken maid walking your dalmation (isn't walking one of the joys of dog ownership?) and although I believe dogs are outdoor animals, the average summer nightime temperature here of 45+ leads me to believe that your dog is probably barking so much because he's bl@ody hot sitting out there in your d@mn yard.....or perhaps I'm just obsessed.

To all dog owners in the vicinity of my house- get a budgie.




Be aware of the above dog, he killed his owner, Baba, in Istanbul! Laughing
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

miski, there's nothing offensive about your post.

We have a stupid family living behind our apartment block here in the Czech Rep with a rottweiler that barks at mice nonstop all night, keeping 65 families awake. Apparently there's no law against such things.

Dog owners, like people with children, really have to think about being good neighbors. I don't let my dog bark in the stairwell, where I know he would disturb the neighbors, I don't let him toilet where people walk and children play, I would NEVER allow him to bark at night.

People who actually want a dog, not a fancy/fashionable accessory, are responsible for making sure that the dogs don't disturb others.

There are a lot of parallels between responsible dog owners and responsible parents Surprised It's not fair to disturb people around you on a regular basis.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
I don't let my dog bark in the stairwell, where I know he would disturb the neighbors, I don't let him toilet where people walk and children play, I would NEVER allow him to bark at night.

How?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spiral78 speaks fluent Dogtalk and the doggy obeys his master.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm strict and he's small. It works Smile
And he still likes me, too.

There are lots of places where a dog can run and play without disturbing others and I like walking with him, so he gets plenty of time to be a dog. At home, he plays with his stuff and gets patted and hangs out by the television and supervises my work. He knows there are certain things he can't do, like play with my books or bark in the house. It's part of learning to live in a family - the same with children. You set boundaries and child or dog can have fun without being a disturbance or nuisance.

I'm taking this way too seriously, aren't I Shocked

007, I thought you said in an earlier post that you yourself had some dogs (and a baby camel, if I'm not mistaken). Were you just pulling our legs??!! Now you seem to have a very different slant on these things.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
I'm strict and he's small. It works Smile
And he still likes me, too.

Good for you. Laughing

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007, I thought you said in an earlier post that you yourself had some dogs (and a baby camel, if I'm not mistaken). Were you just pulling our legs??!! Now you seem to have a very different slant on these things.

Indeed, I have a dog and cat. And I used to have a small camel.
Unfortunately, I do not speak Dogtalk or Cat-talk, I use 'sign language' and 'voice-tone' tactics combined with some Arabic words to communicate with my dog and cat.
But, most of the time, I cannot control or stop my dog when he barks in the night for any reason. May be I am not a good dog trainer. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried a crate? You know what I mean,one of those official travel containers for dogs. If he barks at night, you just close him there - dogs usually feel pretty safe and content in a crate and don't bark. It doesn't work 100%, though.
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canadashirleyblue



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The enclosure thing works for cats, too (if they are howling).

Vet fees are lots cheaper in the middle east. It cost me 40KD to have the (previously howling) cat spayed in Kuwait. The emergency services I tried to access in Kuwait and Saudi were virually non-existant though.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:57 pm    Post subject: Pets in the Middle East Reply with quote

I just arrived in Cairo Sunday with my cat. (I am currently attending the TEFL program at AUC). I walked right through Egyptian customs with her; they didn't even ask to see the papers I had been told were required to bring her into the country (though I did make a point of showing one of them after they waved me through - I went to so much trouble getting the stupid forms done right I wanted SOMEONE to see them).

I don't think they're as narrow minded about animals as you might think; one of the Midddle Eastern airlines (I think it is the one in the UAE) even has a section on their website describing the regulations for transporting falcons on the airline. Surprised
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Pets in the Middle East Reply with quote

theinquiringmind wrote:
I just arrived in Cairo Sunday with my cat. (I am currently attending the TEFL program at AUC). I walked right through Egyptian customs with her; they didn't even ask to see the papers I had been told were required to bring her into the country (though I did make a point of showing one of them after they waved me through - I went to so much trouble getting the stupid forms done right I wanted SOMEONE to see them).

It seems animals travelling to Egypt do not require any paper or a visa! Laughing
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mishmumkin



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inquiring mind, what airline did you take? Did your cat travel in cargo or in the cabin?
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