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blondie10
Joined: 12 Aug 2006
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You did luck out! You can maybe negotiate down around 50 per month but that is about it. You are the first person I have heard of that had some of the Emlak fee knocked off. Was the Emlak a friend or someone you used before? All my Emlak did was print up the contract and take the money. At least the newbies coming into the country should be better prepared than I and my fellow foreigners were.
I was used to having housing included or at least arranged. What I did not expect was to be paying 40YTL a night until I found a flat to rent, having to arrange for time off to look for a flat, and coming up with a large amount of cash. |
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tanzania
Joined: 29 May 2006
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Location: TURKEY
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| The Economics Uni are not in a position to pay top wages this year. They have had a successful year and are able to keep most of their staff on a reasonable pay rise. There are far too many people on this site from Istanbul who are commenting on things they know nothing about. |
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yaramaz
Joined: 05 Mar 2003
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Location: Not where I was before
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| Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:37 am Post subject: |
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| Blondie, I found my emlak off sahibinden.com. It was pure luck that she was so amazing. I'd gone to see several other emlakcis who seriously gave me the creeps. |
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Caterinamh
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Location: Istanbul
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject: referral |
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I may have lucked out then-- I know Istanbul isn't exactly the home of honest and kindly emlakcis, and I know of people who had to pay deposits in euro and dollars and who didn't get their deposits back. But...it isn't inevitable. As I said above, I've been lucky so far.
This year was the first time I needed to use an emlakci (got flats through friends and colleagues before) and it has been a really positive (though expensive) experience. The emlak fee is not necessarily wasted money: my emlakci got my water and electricity set up (including making sure that I was not responsible for any money owed by previous tenants who had left behind bills for 300-400 ytl), she gave me her spare empty gaz cannister and ordered the aygaz for me because I was too busy with work. She waited at my flat for the telephone guy to come hook up my phone line. She arranged for me to get my locks changed and waited at my flat while he did it (again, I was at work). She negotiated a 150ytl/month decrease in my rent with my landlady, and knocked off 250ytl from the emlak fee. As well, in my rental contract, she made it clear that any annual rent increases must be based on the government numbers and agreed on by me as well as the landlady------ a far cry from my last one who tried to pencil in a 20% increase into my contract.
I'm very happy to have spent that money. She has been well worth it. |
Finally, a person who really earned their money. I think you should give her a shout out as far as contact details as she appears to be a gem. |
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FGT
Joined: 14 Sep 2003
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This thread started as one of the few NOT about Istanbul.
I wrote about my experience of 14 years in Izmir earlier,
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| After 14 years and 3 different flats in Izmir I've not yet paid a deposit in anything other than local currency. |
which I've been able to substantiate in conversation with other people who've rented in Izmir.
Why did I receive the following PM tonight?
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From: Caterinamh
To: FGT
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:36 pm
Subject: deposit
I will have to disagree.... I have lived in two different apartments in Istanbul and both asked the deposit to be paid in dollars or euro. Especially around the city center of Istanbul! Sure there are the exceptions but don't think it doesn't happen because it does. If your a "yabanci" it most likely happens more often than not. My husband is Turkish and when I rented the relatives did all or at least most of the talking and it occurred for them as well.
One more thing... about salary that people don't take into consideration is as yabanci we often pay a yabanci inflation rate. Regular inflation, yabaci factor and drop in dollar... not a good outcome
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I didn't think it worth a response but then decided to do so publicly rather than through a PM.
What relevence does one person's experience in Istanbul have to another's in Izmir? These are two different subjects, surely?
I'm not suggesting that hard currency deposits are never required, simply that I and my friends (in Izmir) haven't had to go down that path. |
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Caterinamh
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Location: Istanbul
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:32 am Post subject: not meant to be a PM.... get the wad out of your panties |
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| FGT wrote: |
This thread started as one of the few NOT about Istanbul.
I wrote about my experience of 14 years in Izmir earlier,
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| After 14 years and 3 different flats in Izmir I've not yet paid a deposit in anything other than local currency. |
which I've been able to substantiate in conversation with other people who've rented in Izmir.
Why did I receive the following PM tonight?
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From: Caterinamh
To: FGT
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:36 pm
Subject: deposit
I will have to disagree.... I have lived in two different apartments in Istanbul and both asked the deposit to be paid in dollars or euro. Especially around the city center of Istanbul! Sure there are the exceptions but don't think it doesn't happen because it does. If your a "yabanci" it most likely happens more often than not. My husband is Turkish and when I rented the relatives did all or at least most of the talking and it occurred for them as well.
One more thing... about salary that people don't take into consideration is as yabanci we often pay a yabanci inflation rate. Regular inflation, yabaci factor and drop in dollar... not a good outcome
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I didn't think it worth a response but then decided to do so publicly rather than through a PM.
What relevence does one person's experience in Istanbul have to another's in Izmir? These are two different subjects, surely?
I'm not suggesting that hard currency deposits are never required, simply that I and my friends (in Izmir) haven't had to go down that path. |
OMG, 
This was not meant to be a PM and just a reply as many others give quite freely I may add. Get over it. |
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blondie10
Joined: 12 Aug 2006
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| FGT - great for you but you have been here for 14 years as you have said, you obviously have built up a network of friends in Izmir. 14 years ago when you came is not like it is today. You are the rare exception and definitely not the rule. For all of the newbies coming here, unless you have relatives or friends you will pay a deposit in euros or dollars especially if you go through an Emlak. |
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Otterman Ollie
Joined: 23 Feb 2004
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Location: South Western Turkey
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I think F.G.T deserves a little support here . In my experience of 12 years of living in Izmir I have always been asked to pay a deposit in dollars or Euros which for some reason the asker thinks thats the currency I'm paid in . After explaining that the only currency I have is tl then we work out an equivelant amount in that currency . Everyone who asks for dollars in this country never gets it ,not from me at least .
Blondie ,you seem so well informed about this certain uni , tell me , do you know what the average wage rise is this year ?
Also have you heard anymore about the new proposed "clocking in " card system ? |
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blondie10
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Otterman - If you can explain that you get paid in turkish lira and not in dollars or euros then you must speak pretty good turkish. I took several turkish people with me and they explained the same thing and there was no negotiating. When was the last time you moved? Within the last couple of years? Yes I do know how much the raises were this year, not that great and not that bad, just so so.
You can tell the rest of us about the supposed new clocking in system. |
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Otterman Ollie
Joined: 23 Feb 2004
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Location: South Western Turkey
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Blondie ,I have moved in the last 9 months and I paid my deposit in ytl ,simple really I just waved some of the folding stuff in his face and worked out how much he wanted ,its usually the same as a months rent so thats a good clue .
I will hold fire on the clocking system for now ,when I know a bit more than I can share that with you . BTW, its Ollie OK ! |
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fungus the bogeyman
Joined: 03 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:42 am Post subject: |
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Geez why does every thread on this forum have to turn into a battle!
Some of us had to pay a deposit in dollars, some paid in YTL - so what - is it a sign of personal weakness if we didnt pay in YTL or we didnt manage to win one over on the estate agent by not getting him to change his mind. And for your information I am talking about Izmir and I moved in last 10 months.
When this forum is informative it is great, when people show humour it is entertaining but sadly for the most part its all about scoring points. How sad! |
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billybuzz
Joined: 05 Jan 2006
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Location: turkey
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:17 am Post subject: |
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| Well we gotta get our kicks somehow ! |
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Golightly
Joined: 08 Feb 2005
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Location: in the bar, next to the raki
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Since Thrifty and Henry Cowell no longer show up, or that bloke who wears eyeliner to class, we have to get a bit of a storm going now and then.
By the way, I have to pay my rent in sterling.
Then again, I do live in the UK.
Duh. |
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dmb
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:01 am Post subject: |
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| Do turkish landlords in the UK accept YTL? |
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Golightly
Joined: 08 Feb 2005
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Location: in the bar, next to the raki
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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only the stupid ones.
The rest get paid in kebabs and cheap labour. |
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