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Hawthorn Muscat English Language Centre job offer any good?
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Duffy



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmph!!!!! Shocked Shocked

So what makes your life so wonderful?????


Duffy Confused Confused Confused
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Henry_Cowell



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duffy wrote:
So what makes your life so wonderful?????

My job gives me the freedom not to be captive "in the workplace" all day long. One of the benefits of working in global teaching/training is that you can create the type of professional life that you've always wanted. I've chosen not to have a 9-to-5 job in a virtual prison.

What about you?

And what about "ghost"? It has posted inquiries on quite a few forums around the world here at Dave's seeking information about new locales and positions. Surely it doesn't seek to remain on campus for the rest of its career? Surely it wants to improve the quality of its professional life?
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bigbadsuzie



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 4:26 am    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

ghost wrote:
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and at times talk to colleagues and staff.


It doesn't sound like you get on with your workmates there either.
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ghost



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 2:14 pm    Post subject: re Reply with quote

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It doesn't sound like you get on with your workmates there either.
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There are 10 teachers at the college, and many of them are mavericks with unusual habits, behaviours, etc, and for that reason, it is often better to just mind one's own business without getting too involved in the lives of other teachers. The liabilities, sadly, usually outweigh the benefits, from such social interaction.

Ghost in Korea
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kuberkat



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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and many of them are mavericks with unusual habits, behaviours, etc, and for that reason, it is often better to just mind one's own business without getting too involved in the lives of other teachers. The liabilities, sadly, usually outweigh the benefits, from such social interaction.


ROTFL!!! If you're used to that kind of scenario, you'll fit right in, ghost. Let's face it: teaching abroad year after year is not for the faint of heart. And when you rule out the faint of heart, you do end up with the bunch of oddballs you describe- whether in Korea, Oman or Saudi. I know: I'm one of them- though i'm not a bad person, just tough. I have a good relationship with my colleagues, but it ends in the office. This li'l town is just too small to get too cozy with anyone.

As to the hours scenario, now that I know more about your offer, it seems to me that this job would be at Sohar College (not the Uni). From that I can assure you that though 40 office hours are required weekly, only half of those are teaching hours.

I hope Henry_Cowell will enlighten us as to how attain liberation in this profession, though. Sounds like fun.
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Duffy



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh Come on!!

Folks, we either love or hate were we are. Own up!!

Has your choice of location been a bad decision? Most will not admit this because it will be seen as an admission of failure. But what the heck!! we decide, if it is wrong - we admit the mistake, that way we can enjoy where we are.

Am I wrong here??
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Henry_Cowell



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kuberkat wrote:
I hope Henry_Cowell will enlighten us as to how attain liberation in this profession, though. Sounds like fun.

It can indeed be fun. Try any of the following:
    Teach in an American university or community college (your office hours are up to you)
    Train corporate executives in communication skills
    Provide ESL training to high-tech companies with large numbers of non-native speakers
    Train technical writers in places such as India, Singapore, and the Philippines
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bigbadsuzie



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:23 am    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

ghost wrote:
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It doesn't sound like you get on with your workmates there either.
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The liabilities, sadly, usually outweigh the benefits, from such social interaction.

Ghost in Korea


No wonder you have ended up single Embarassed
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steppy-boy



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 4:54 pm    Post subject: Working for MOHE Reply with quote

Hi Ghost,
Be recruited by the likes of a Majali and work for a very bad College like Sohar College if you like but your reputation and perhaps your sanity will suffer for it. It is an awful place with a dictatorial and largely ineffectual HOD and a sinister and dishonest sub-dean called Zajali. I got out just in time and now have much better pay and conditions working for a College in Muscat. Don't short-change yourself. Keep looking and you will find something that pays better and has a far better reputation. Read the threads by other posters earlier on about Sohar College (like the drunk who wanted to know how to get a liquor permit soon after arriving) I'm seriously thinking of creating my own website forum sometime in the future focusing just on the MOHE Colleges in Oman because of its special problems and needs.

Best wishes.
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helenl



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a note on locations: Sohar is almost exactly halfway between Dubai and Muscat. If you are resident in Oman, you will need to apply for a road pass from your employer to exit the country via the land border crossings (shouldn't be a problem, but it is an annoying bit of red tape).

Shinas is closer to Dubai by about an hour perhaps a little more. However, there's not very much there. Sohar doesn't have a great deal to offer but in comparison with Shinas it is a "better" location
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ghost



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:37 am    Post subject: re Reply with quote

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Hi Ghost,
Be recruited by the likes of a Majali and work for a very bad College like Sohar College if you like but your reputation and perhaps your sanity will suffer for it. It is an awful place with a dictatorial and largely ineffectual HOD and a sinister and dishonest sub-dean called Zajali. I got out just in time and now have much better pay and conditions working for a College in Muscat. Don't short-change yourself. Keep looking and you will find something that pays better and has a far better reputation. Read the threads by other posters earlier on about Sohar College (like the drunk who wanted to know how to get a liquor permit soon after arriving) I'm seriously thinking of creating my own website forum sometime in the future focusing just on the MOHE Colleges in Oman because of its special problems and needs.

Best wishes.


Thanks for the input. I will look into that.

Majali seems like a nice chap (in his e-mails, at least), but he keeps on sending me e-mails every week, encouraging me to get on board as soon as possible. But the salary that was written in the document was for 775 rials, which is a little below what I am actually aiming for.

I am looking for a position in Oman with a salary of about 1000 rials, and the usual benefits including 60 days off in summer + the Islamic holidays.

My salary in Korea is 2.7 million won (about $2800 u.s. at this time) + free housing. I would be looking for the same thing in Oman. Cost of living, I think, might be a little higher in Korea compared with Oman, but I don't think the difference is significant. In Korea, I am able to save $1500 month without problems on my salary, and that includes weekly trips to Seoul for Korean language lessons at the Korean Language Academy (www.seoul-kla.com).

Last question: Is it possible to come to Oman on a tourist visa, and look for work there? I get the impression that not many people do it in the region in that way?

Thanks for any input you might have.

Ghost in Korea
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denise



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could look into CfBT. They recruit for Nizwa, Ibri, and Salalah and offer a salary of 1,000 (for MA-holders) plus the holidays/benefits you mentioned. I send half of my salary home and still live quite well.

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ghost



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:31 am    Post subject: re Reply with quote

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You could look into CfBT. They recruit for Nizwa, Ibri, and Salalah and offer a salary of 1,000 (for MA-holders) plus the holidays/benefits you mentioned. I send half of my salary home and still live quite well.


Thank you. Which school is CFBT? I will look at their website. Do you have a link?

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ghost



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:38 pm    Post subject: re Reply with quote

The e-mail I sent to a certain 'chris' at CFBT in Oman, bounced back.

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ghost



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:43 pm    Post subject: re Reply with quote

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Nizwa, Ibri, and Salalah


Which location would you recommend? Salalah looks really far from Muscat and other locations - not sure if that would be a good place to work, plus, I gather the region around Salalah can get very hot and humid during the monsoon season, with torrential rain.

Which location do you think is the best between Muscat, Nizwa and Ibri?
I have heard decent things about Nizwa. Muscat also, sounds good.

Finally - to work for CFBT, do you have to go through a recruiter, or can you do it without an agent? I think the main office is in London, for all kinds of staff, including teachers. Better to contact them, or the schools directly?

Happy Ramadan ending, to all.

Thank you.

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