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mishmumkin
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:13 am Post subject: |
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Absolutely right about CC work...it shouldn't be your primary source of income, but it can supplement nicely for a couple.
I'm thinking back to the UAE for better paying uni work that I hope to be able to save a bit on!  |
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stew nield
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:28 am Post subject: |
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Well, thanks for the links john, I do appreciate them. But as has been pointed out, they mainly involve positions in the US, which I am really not interested in (not for now anyway).
I was more hoping to hear from people actually in Spain with similar qualifications and experience, and finding out how they are doing and what kind of jobs they have.
So if anyone else in the know has something to add, please feel free to do so.....
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john_n_carolina

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john_n_carolina

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john_n_carolina

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john_n_carolina

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SirKirby
Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 261 Location: Barcelona, Spain
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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With an MA and an interest in "something 'respectable'", I'd suggest you want to go for a British Council post... I'd say you've got very little chance of breaking into the Spanish Univ. system if you are a "non native" (ie not Spanish).
Spain isn't a good place if your salary expectations are high... Most small language schools, esp. outside Madrid and Barcelona, probably aren't interested in your MA, and certainly won't see that as a reason for paying you more.
Even in Barcelona, I'd say that around 1,100 euros per month after tax for around 25 contact hours is about "average". Small towns, cost of living lower, pay also lower. |
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john_n_carolina

Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 700 Location: n. carolina
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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...yes, and i believe the Spanish Universities won't pay as much as a private institute, etc....unless, it's a private Catholic, etc Univ.
British Council, Fulbright, etc sounds like the best route.
or teaching at an International High School. |
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tabbicat
Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Posts: 12
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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Your best bet would probably be to work freelance in either Madrid or Barcelona and pick up well-paid work in different places. Or, just get settled and then try to get work in a university. There are non-natives working in universities in Barcelona as far as I know. Not sure what they're paid, but I think an hourly rate would be around 45� (and lots of marking). The going rate in decent schools is between 20-30�/hr. Others pay less. For private classes you set your own rate.
I believe that the British Council/Institute only offer contracts for 2 years then you have to move to another country if you stay with the Council.
Check out this website for job ads. www.loquo.com |
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mishmumkin
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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Segundamano has used to be a great source for work, too.
http://www.segundamano.es/ |
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SirKirby
Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 261 Location: Barcelona, Spain
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:53 am Post subject: |
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I'm sorry, but neither Loquo nor Segundamano are AT ALL likely to have the sort of jobs the original poster is interested in, IMHO.
If you are looking for private classes, or to advertise yourself as offering private tuition, Loquo might be interesting.
If you are interested in flat-share, Loquo might also be... |
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mishmumkin
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:21 am Post subject: |
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I'm sorry, but neither Loquo nor Segundamano are AT ALL likely to have the sort of jobs the original poster is interested in, IMHO. If you are looking for private classes, or to advertise yourself as offering private tuition, Loquo might be interesting. |
Absolutely untrue of Segunda Mano, though private classes can be found and private tutores can advertise, there are also teaching positions in the employmet section. Lucrative and worthy of an MA? Ha--no such thing in Spain for the ESOL teacher. |
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john_n_carolina

Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 700 Location: n. carolina
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Ha--no such thing in Spain for the ESOL teacher. |
....the list of Intl Schools is a good place to start. some of these are "Embassy Kid" schools. at many of these schools, you can make $15,000 / $20,000 a year. usually, it's best if you can teach Math, Science also...but anyone can teach basic Math. even my gym teacher in H.S. was OK.
the OP has 3 excellent marks: British, MA, and overseas experience. if he puts on a smile, a smart tie, and a polished attache, he'll get into on of these Intl Schools or British Council. |
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john_n_carolina

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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:24 am Post subject: |
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....i'll agree with you MissMumkin -- the schools that pay $15,000 or 2000 Euros / mo are a small percentage, maybe 5-10% of Spain.??
it helps if you have blue eyes  |
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mishmumkin
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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...the list of Intl Schools is a good place to start. some of these are "Embassy Kid" schools. at many of these schools, you can make $15,000 / $20,000 a year. usually, it's best if you can teach Math, Science also...but anyone can teach basic Math. even my gym teacher in H.S. was OK. |
These jobs in Spain require teaching qualifications-not MAs. The MA holds less water w/ British schools than it might w/ American ones (which still isn't much). The positions are highly competitive, asking for lots of experience in the key stage named...no qualification? I don't think you'd even get a nod. |
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