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English more important in C.R. than any other L.A. country
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john_n_carolina



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...excellent post Smile you could put that in the TESOL monthly mag.

MELEE wrote:

I think you are overestimating the amount of English the majority of Japanese children learn in primary school.

you're right...i totally forgot about Western Europe. Sweden, Holland, etc. my dad came here at 15 from Holland. he was in Cornell by 18. and there were 0 to few Asians in his class. but that was 1969, so im not sure how times have changed in Japan.


MELEE wrote:
We wanted them to like English, and see language learning as fun. So that when they got to middle school they wouldn't hate it.


right on, agree 100%. same with H.S. English in the US. i tried to get them to actually like Shakespeare and show them pride in what they were reading. something of more substance than Skateboarding Today.
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logicpocket



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very interesting discussion happening here, figured I'd throw in my two cents (or, these days, two colones).

I was amazed at the severe -lack- of culture shock I had upon arriving in Costa Rica, and even after spending some time here I still don't feel terribly out of place nor unnecessarily perturbed as a foreigner might expect to be.

I chalk this up to the constantly increasing influx of Spanish speakers in and around where I had been living in New York. The language of the street was Spanish, promotional material and forms in Spanish, Caribbean and Mexican music stations popping up all over the place, employees at banks and restaurants that speak better Spanish then English, etc.

Honestly, I had more of a shock going to Miami where /I/ felt like the idiot for not knowing any Spanish... a situation I have taken great pains to change over the past three years.

So, what is my point aside from a personal digression? Not much except to point out that Spanish has been on the rise in the States for some time, and competency in it has become a deciding factor in employment (albeit mostly lower level service industry jobs).

It will be interesting to see how the language climate changes in the coming years with this sort of relationship in mind. English and Spanish will continue to meet, in various ways, in the middle.. just like a lot of the conversations I have here with Ticos who speak half English while I speak half Spanish.
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john_n_carolina



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, ive been watching this very carefully for a few years now. there are several big jobsite now for bilinguals. www.latpro.com, diversity-jobs.com, www.hispanic-jobs.com.

especially, marketing -- will be a big field for bilingual workers. and, of course telephone customer service, hospitals, courts, public sector...
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bilingual paralegal is a very good job for those so inclinded.

Bilingual ER nurse is another one.

both require specialized education on top of being bilingual.

It is interesting to see how English and Spanish interact with each other. So much of it is pop culture related. I have one lesson for beginners that I like and have repeated many times over the years. It is set in a Lost and Found office. Until last year, the students never knew the word Lost before the lesson. (and often couldn't remember it the day after the lesson) but now, thanks to a popular TV program, all young people in Mexico know the word LOST. I wonder if it will have staying power, or be forgotten in a year or two? I've been away from the US for so long to know if more Spanish words are slipping into the general English speaking populations vocabulary. Thanks to Dora the Explorer, I can guess some words and phrases the next generation might use Razz!
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John Hall



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was amazed at the severe -lack- of culture shock I had upon arriving in Costa Rica, and even after spending some time here I still don't feel terribly out of place nor unnecessarily perturbed as a foreigner might expect to be.


I could have written the same thing after I first arrived in Costa Rica about seven years ago. But the funny thing is that I am Canadian, and in my part of Canada, Spanish is neither seen nor heard.
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