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		| ockyocky 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Firstly Kiev is getting expensive for apartmnents, $500 dollars is normal now for a one room place!
 $10 dollars per hour is a minimum that they should be offering for a Native English teacher
 And I have never been accused of being a spy:)) Except to look at girls:)))
 
 
 
 
 
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	  | I only found one language school that offered to sponsor a work visa.  However, first I had to give them $1000 USD to take their CELTA course since they don't recognize my TEFL cert. from a respectable US training program or my academic and professional experience.  I also have taught English for 2 years. 
 As for housing, I did find an American who has been here over a year now, and he verified that $500 is the going rate for a one bedroom near a metro station that is close to the center.
 
 BTW, is it common to have drunk men accuse you of being a spy in the Ukraine or is it just me?  This is happening on a regular basis.  The last guy threw a punch which missed me by 2 feet.  I think he was seeing double and tried to hit the imaginary spy:) He then stumbled into a babushka who started clubbing him with her umbrella.  If it wasn't happening to me, it would have been hilarious!
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		| ytuque 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:08 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| What's your visa status if you don't mind my asking?  I take it that you are in Kiev?   I am still in a temp. flat and have a line on a few places in the $450 range. It remains to be seen whether I will get that price. 
 As for the spy thing, an ex-pat who has been here for some time explained that it was more of a Russian vs. Ukrainian thing.  This being the Russian part of Kiev, the local Russians feel abused by the West as well as by the ethnic Ukrainians.  Add vodka to the mix, and this is what you get.
 
 Poland is beginning to look better all the time!
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		| ockyocky 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:47 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Well,first of all my visa is a normal business visa, Maybe that will change soon. I am in Kiev and love it here, It is best if you try to find a place have a local friend look, if you don't have one of those find a girl, caht her up, practice English and she will porbably go out of her way to help you
  ) $450 for a flat is not unreasonable for a one room, you just have to search and be lucky, but they are getting more and more expensive
 
 The Spy thing, well, I was speaking to my girlfriend last night about it and she suggested that you stop asking for nuclear secrets and they will stop accusing you of being a spy!!!!
  ))   I have heard of no such thing here, how the hell do you get yourself into this situation??? Maybe don't drink with the Ukrainain boys, just stick to the girls?
 
 
 
 
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	  | What's your visa status if you don't mind my asking?  I take it that you are in Kiev?   I am still in a temp. flat and have a line on a few places in the $450 range. It remains to be seen whether I will get that price. 
 As for the spy thing, an ex-pat who has been here for some time explained that it was more of a Russian vs. Ukrainian thing.  This being the Russian part of Kiev, the local Russians feel abused by the West as well as by the ethnic Ukrainians.  Add vodka to the mix, and this is what you get.
 
 Poland is beginning to look better all the time!
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		| ytuque 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:15 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Just my bad luck I suppose!  Another American has encountered the spy thing here.  Perhaps in Kiev, they are more comfortable with foreigners. |  | 
	
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		| ockyocky 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:24 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I have travelled a bit around Ukraine and have never been accused:) Maybe you are just a suspicious looking person:) |  | 
	
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		| ytuque 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:31 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I prefer to think that it is due to my resemblence to James Bond...  Sean Connery not that new crying Bond. |  | 
	
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		| ockyocky 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:32 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Well, at least you have some class, Sean is the only James Bond |  | 
	
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		| ecocks 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:09 pm    Post subject: Spies like us.... |   |  
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				| Haven't been accused or questioned in Ukraine but the Ruskis denied my invitation application saying I was "suspicious." 
 Veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery interesting...but dumb!
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		| ockyocky 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:58 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Ytuque, if you are still in Kiev and want some work I know a little school that is looking for a Native immediately. Drop me a PM
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		| rogan 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:40 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| ytuque 
 Just my bad luck I suppose! Another American has encountered the spy thing here. Perhaps in Kiev, they are more comfortable with foreigners.
 
 You are the foreigner !
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		| ytuque 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:13 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Rogan, 
 Yes, I am aware that I am a foreigner here, and this should be clear from reading my posts.
 
 Do you drink heavily before posting or have difficulty with written English?
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